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Luol Deng with a great third quarter, he's playing terrific.

Is that why he averaged 6rpg in the postseason last year?

Ryan Anderson is playing great, he's rebounding the ball well and shooting the three ball with consistency. Orlando is going to need him to step up big time in the playoffs.

Chicago is playing some terrible defense, no rotations at all, Thibodeau must be pissed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHmEkZ9ER0o&feature=player_embedded Scouts are raving about his defensive potential, and he plays in one of the best leagues in the world and is producing at a pretty solid rate. He's only 6'9, but has a 7'7 wingspan, and a 9'3 standing reach. I think he can be a Serge Ibaka type player, but better.

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No Dwight Howard today...can we just skip this game and go straight to the Celtics-Heat game?

The perfect option, he's a players coach, he's been around the system for over a decade, what more can you ask for?

Ty Lawson 10-11 from three, with that one miss coming on a halfcourt shot at the end of the third quarter.

What a great all around game for the Wiz, everyone stepped up and played well.

So far so good.

Very sad news, RIP.

Agreed. I've been creating mocks after the lottery for the past few years, but it would be nice to have a little competition to go with it.

People still appreciated the fact that he was consistently winning and was edging closer to becoming the greatest PF ever. It doesn't matter if he got screwed, the point is, he didn't win those all NBA 1st team honors. And it seems like you have forgotten about Grant Hill who was averaging LeBron-esque numbers for 5 straight years. He was the next MJ before VC, Kobe, or Tmac. Grant Hill had the potential to be one of the best SF in history. He could do it all and as everyone remembers was one of the most dominant player in the league for the few years he was hundred percent. His continued ankle injuries destroyed millions of true fans to see one of the most complete SF ever.

Meh, just another drought by the Celtics. Fratello really made a great point, no one on the C's is playing a great game, everyone is just around average, while the Bulls have had Deng and Rose step up considerably in this game.

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Both teams are playing terrific defense, you hardly see any missed assignments. Pierce in particular has played great help defense, and Rondo has finally picked it up on offense.

Solid half by both teams, Chicago is just playing with more energy. Rondo needs to get more aggressive on offense, he's playing too passively.

You're acting as if he broke down barriers or established a new age in dunking...everything he did was a mixture of things Nique, Dr J, and MJ had done in previous years, we didn't see anything new. He did nothing in the playoffs, he didn't win anything, he didn't get any awards outside of the ROY (which doesn't mean much towards your legacy), nor did he receive any first team honors. And let's not act as if he didn't have help with gaining fans interest, Shaq and Duncan were in their primes, and Kobe was reaching stardom as well as Tmac. As a player, there's just no way he should get in...he doesn't have the resume plain and simple.

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Yeah it will be considered, but there's no way it trumps the fact that he has nothing on his resume except a few good scoring seasons. You just can't make it to the hall with the career he's had, no way. And thanks for clearing up the TMac situation in Houston and Orlando.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcajwfVHTYI&feature=related I don't care what people say, he was amazing.

That's not the reason, it's because he didn't accomplish much even when he was healthy... Tmac was arguably the best in his prime (and historically had one of the greatest seasons ever) and I hardly see anyone talking about his hall of fame eligibility.

How can you not care about PER? At least try to keep an open mind about all of this.. And what does it matter where he achieved those numbers? Carter was on teams similar to those, but didn't put up the numbers Mac put up. I have no idea what all stars disguised as superstars means, but Tmac was arguably the best player in the league in his prime, so he was definitely a superstar. In 2003, it was a legit argument over who would you rather have between him and Kobe Bryant, I can't say the same about Carter. Are you really saying that had Tmac not been injured all those years, he wouldn't have extended his prime? Really? Age doesn't become a factor for players like Tmac and Kobe until they hit 32+, there's no doubt in my mind that Tmac would be a hall of fame player had he not been hurt. And you clearly didn't watch Tmac in Houston...he wasn't as ball dominant as his days in Orlando. Not to mention, he developed better playmaking skills when he arrived in Houston..because he was able to play alongside a true superstar. The Rockets, in a much tougher Western conference, were a five seed every year they were in the playoffs since Tmac arrived, that's not much of a uphill battle. They won 51+ games each year he was there and healthy. Caron Butler wasn't on the team when we made it to the second round. Gilbert was the reason we got to the second round, he hit the buzzer beater in game 5 and was the clear leader of the team. I agree he deserved those all star votes, that's not my point..What I'm getting at is that the FANS voted him in because they loved seeing him on the court, but it's obvious the writers and broadcasters think differently...for a good reason too. Statistically speaking means your simply using the "eye test" on the stat sheet, which any fool can do, but individually speaking, there's no way he gets in, because all he has is his impressive scoring total...nothing else.

..and let's not act as if his teams in Toronto were terrible. The franchise was built around VC to succeed, much like LBJ in Cleveland. Very strong defensively, and had some great role players such as Oakley, Williams, Davis, and Christie. With that being said, I wouldn't consider his career a success at all...but I also wouldn't consider it a complete failure. Is that really hall of fame worthy?