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Big Ben is just great. When the game is on the line, he's always finding a way to make a big play. I hate seeing the Steelers in the SB again, but at least we won't have to hear Rex Ryan's fatass talk for the next two weeks. Go Packers.

While you bring up an interesting point that has been magnified due to Rondo being credited for assists he didn't make, you seem to be downplaying the significance of the assist far too much. By using your logic, I can also say the majority of rebounds centers get are fairly easy as well. Half the time they are not working for them and are getting them because they are right near the basket or no one is near the ball. The same could be said about blocks as well. Does it really show how great of a defender that player is? Right now JaVale McGee is second in blocks per game, but is he really a top 3 defender at his position? Right now I'm having a hard time considering him as a good defender... And you can also say scoring is a bit overrated in certain instances. In the year prior to LeBron being drafted, Ricky Davis averaged 20PPG. But would you consider him a good scorer or merely a product of the system he was in? Regardless, every great team needs players that are able to initiate the offense, keep everyone involved, and above all else (if he's really the most important cog in your offense) find the absolute best avenue to score (if that requires him to score then so be it). So no, I would not consider assists as an overrated stat.

Loving every moment of this game.

BIG BEN

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14584064/postups-nene-impatient-with-nuggets-focus-on-melo

What a terrible play, shouldn't have gone for it, way too risky.

Figures. Didn't Tomlinson get ripped apart by the media when he sat out of the championship game a few years back? I'm sure we'll be hearing some sort of QB controversy in Chicago this off season..

Great ending to the game, nice to see Packers win!

Gutter Rainbows So Low Cold Rain Mr. International I'm On One How You Love Me ^^Favorite songs off the album. They're all pretty decent, nothing really stands out for me.

[expletive] yeah! Love Kweli, downloading this now. Thanks for the link Nitro.

Yeah and John Wall didn't play THAT well. It also helps having Pierce in foul trouble, but to be fair, so was Wall. While Blatche wasn't having a good night on the statsheet, I loved his effort out there. Good win for us, should definitely boost our confidence.

When in doubt, always use variables, especially when values aren't given.

Make the length 4X and the width X, then solve for the perimeter. So you have 4X+4X+X+X= 100 yards; and X=10. Which means 4X= 40 Then find the area. Guru is right. EDIT: [expletive] you lkr, posted it before me. -_-

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41182977/ns/sports-player_news/ My jaw dropped when i read that Haynesworth wants to play.. But seriously, a motivated Haynesworth would be terrific for Philly. But I doubt Washington would trade him to a rival team.

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So you agree with me...the more VALUABLE player deserves the award, not the better player? Jordan was having a great year, but him and the Bulls could've probably played better that season. I mean Jordan and the Bulls at times didn't look like the same team they were that won the past 2 championships, while Charles Barkley was amazing the whole year. Jordan was definitely the best player that year, but if the MVP went to the best player in the league, then Jordan would've probably won it almost every year of his career. Maybe they should change it to that criteria, but if their going by the same criteria they've had for the past 50 years, then Barkley was the way to go. Because Rose is more valuable to his team dude. You gotta understand the difference between being the better player and the more valuable player to his respective team. You're setting yourself up for a double standard here. Just now you mentioned LeBron being a better defender than Rose, yet you are advocating Nash's MVP award. He's one of the worst (if not the worst) defensive player to win MVP. it's a contradiction historically with the MVP award. Nash is MVP over Amare and Marion because he sets up their successes, right? Okay, then why does Karl Malone have 2 MVP wins and Stockton has never come close to 1? Bill Walton won it while playing 58 games. Two other things stick out. The first is that there really weren't too many standout players that season (or standout teams for that matter). The second is that Walton's defense was beyond phenomenal, which had a lot to do with his being named MVP, and a lot to do with the Blazers having such a great team defense. I think what I'm trying to say is that I understand picking him as the MVP that year. I just wouldn't have done it, since he missed so much time. I probably would have picked George Gervin, but I wasn't alive then, so I can't say that without being somewhat ign'ant. The fact remains, he won it while playing significantly less games than Iverson. He was also playing a league high 42 minutes a game on one of the most inept offenses in the league...Picture the 05-06 Lakers when Kobe was dropping 28 or so FG's a game, that's exactly what was happening in Philly. And while his FG wasn't great by any means, it was proven to be successful as he did lead them all the way to the Finals. Take him off the team, and they're a bottom seed in the East, just like the Cavs. As long as he wins 50+ games or so, I don't see anything wrong with him winning it. But they've all been top 5 players almost every year this decade, right? That's not the point. I'm focusing on your criteria for winning MVP. You are saying the MVP HAS to be a top 5 player in the league, and clearly, Nash never was. Not even on his best day is he one because he's such a liability on defense. Durant also has a player that's in and out of the MVP discussion this year. And as stated before, Rose has been taking over games and has elevated his game this year. He may not be better than Paul and Williams, but he's certainly playing like a MVP. Nash was never a top 5 player when he won. Malone and Stockton were both equally as important to that Jazz team when he won both times. I don't understand this obsession over being a top 5 player just to fit the parameters to win MVP.

Would definitely like this, make it happen B.

I want Flip fired now. This guy is absolutely terrible. I've never been more discontent with a coach in my life. Nothing else to say now.

..but by your definition, Jordan should have won it because he was the best player in the league, right? Nash winning the MVP the first time was a joke. In no way was he more valuable than Dirk was to the Mavs that season, absolutely no way. And even without Amare the next year he won the award, Nash had Marion playing at a superstar level and a terrific supporting cast. They had the second best offense in the league and a very solid defense. We're talking about a guy who never was a top 5 player during his MVP years and was/is a complete liability on defense. And you don't know whether or not Rose can lead the Bulls farther than Nash did with the Suns those years. This is a kid who has never missed the playoffs and has the ability to dominate games when needed. And we know he can show up in the playoffs and compete with the best. How is Iverson winning it a disgrace? We're talking about a career season for one of the greatest guards in the history of this league. Not to mention he lead his team, very similar to LeBron when he won his 2 MVP's in Cleveland. Duncan to me was 3rd with Shaq being the close runner-up, but Iverson amazed me that year. He had a VERY good defensive center starting with Theo Ratliff until injury, and ending with Mutumbo who Ratliff was traded for after his injury. But what else was there??? Aaron McKie was solid, Eric Snow was not quite average and when you look at scoring support you really don't find much outside of Iverson. He carried that team to the Finals and I honestly believe that without him they would have been no higher than a mid-ranged lottery team. I credit Larry Brown a great deal for making it all work but all in all I have never seen a more single-player-dominated team in my 19 years of following the NBA who made the Finals other than Iverson's Sixers except for last year's Lebron dominated Cavs, and AI had the stronger regular season record. The MVP should come from one of the better teams in the league and to a player that really raised his game so that team could be one of the elite teams in the league. And there are special cases for each player, so being the best player or a top 5 player should have no barring on who should be named MVP. Between Kobe, Garnett, Shaq, and Duncan they've only won 5 MVP's and they've absolutely dominated a decade and a half in basketball. What does that tell you? Besides, was Nash really a top 5 player in 04-05? Garnett, Iverson, Kobe, Tmac, Duncan, and Dirk were all playing better than him.

The same reason why Steve Nash won the award twice, Charles won it over MJ in '93, and why Iverson won in 2001. They were all more valuable to their teams than their runner ups. I guess the Nash example isn't the best one out there since I too disagree with the award, but whatever. And the PG position is arguably the strongest in the league right now.

Now we will hear endless rumors about Melo possibly going to Chicago... Broussard: Sources say Nuggets have granted Chicago permission to talk to Melo Stein: Melo unsure of joining Chicago, afraid he won't be the main guy there. Woj: Melo thinking of staying in Denver after all... Bucher: Melo thinking of going to LA now Spears: Melo reportedly upset that Derrick Rose didn't text him asking for him to come to Chicago. Stephen A. Smith: Melo thinking of retiring and moving into a group home with KAH-WAH-MAY BROWN!

I really don't think one award should be relative to the other. Here's the difference between MVP and All NBA First team though, one depicts how important you are to your team while the other clearly shows who the best guard is. I hope I'm making sense here... And let's all remember, even before Boozer came back from his injury (even when he was back he had some recovery to deal with), the Bulls were a top team in the East with a respectable 9-5 record (Lost to Boston by 5 in OT). Rose has been one major constant for that Bulls team, with Deng slowly progressing the last few weeks (he's benefitted tremendously since Carlos' return). I know his efficiency stats aren't exactly spectacular, but at the end of the day, he makes winning plays and has been fantastic in crunch time. I can live with some of the problems he has (lack of FTA, turnover prone, shoots too much at times) as long as they're winning. I say he deserves the hype he's getting this season. But as I've stated before in this thread, CP3 is having an outstanding season despite dealing with some lingering injuries. He's the second best defender amongst starting PG's and statistically is having a phenomenal year. And while the Hornets maintain a good enough record to keep him in the MVP discussion, I don't believe they will win more games than the Bulls. But I can understand why you didn't give the MVP to Rose, I don't think an MVP has ever been on the All NBA second team, I just wanted to point out it's logical...somewhat.

I was doing my homework when my brother told me Kobe was dominating in the third quarter, that's when I started watching. Luckily I was able to catch one of the million replays of the game later on. 55pts in a full game of regulation for Dwyane Wade ( 2nd best SG of the decade) would match his career high-single game scoring mark. Kobe Bryant went for 55pts in one half of NBA basketball... just 24 minutes. I just thought that needed to be said. About 3 weeks before this he scored 62 against the Mavs, who only went on to make the Finals that year, only he did it in three quarters and sat out the 4th altogether. In terms of dominant perimeter scorers, nothing tops Kobe in '06. I do think a case could be made that 62 points against the Mavs was just as, if not more impressive than his 81 point performance. The Lakers need almost every one of the points Kobe scored to win that game against the Raptors. In his 62 point performance against the Mavs the game was already over by the end of the 3rd. That Mavs team was far better of an opponent as well (went on to the Finals that year). It was just complete domination from the start. And I think if anyone were in Kobe's position, they would do the same if it was in their power. That team was garbage, Kobe got so frustrated with them, no one was capable of creating their own shot. I bet if Jordan had the power to take over a game like that when he was on the Wizards, he would've done so.

MVP: Derrick Rose Coach of the Year: Gregg Popvich Defensive Player of the Year: Kevin Garnett Most Improved: Wesley Matthews 6th man: Jamal Crawford Rookie of the Year: Blake Griffin Biggest Disappointment (player or team): Houston Rockets (Had very high hopes for them) Biggest Surprise (player or team): Spurs First League All-Team: C:Dwight Howard PF:Dirk Nowitzki SF:LeBron James SG:Kobe Bryant PG:Chris Paul Finals Guess: Boston Celtics (4) vs. San Antonio Spurs (2)

I just don't see it affecting our active posters that much, I still see you guys around posting, and since school has started for all of you, the activity still seems relatively similar.