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  1. interesting, care to explain what the numbers mean? ;p

     

    Let's just say the highest single season rating I've calculated so far is over an 86.0, and that's Kobe Bryant's 2005-06 season.

     

    The lowest I've rated is Joel Anthony, and his was about -19.0 this season (yes, that's a negative rating).

     

    When you say the numbers are based on ability rather than efficiency, are you saying that the stat is partially based on how many ways a player can score?

     

    You can interpret it that way, yes. You can also interpret with certain players that they are so good at scoring in one area (say, three point shooting), that it outweighs their lacking in other areas.

  2. Chicago Bulls: 62 - 20

     

    Derrick Rose - 81.884

    Carlos Boozer - 77.906

    Luol Deng - 73.216

    Kyle Korver - 71.385

    C.J. Watson - 68.764

    Joakim Noah - 65.158

    Taj Gibson - 63.950

    Ronnie Brewer - 58.090

    Kieth Bogans - 51.138

    Omer Asik - 45.171

    Kurt Thomas - 31.373

     

    Less than 41 Played Games:

    Brian Scalabrine - 45.544 (18 games)

    John Lucas - 58.315 (2 games)

     

    Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Rasual Butler - 80.131 (TOT - 59.847)

    --- Left:

    James Johnson - 66.700 (TOT - 62.487)

  3. This is a stat I invented I call Scoring Ability Rating (SAR). I don't believe anyone else has come up with it first. Do let me know if I'm wrong.

     

    I will be updating this thread with each team's player's SAR as I rate them. It may take a while, so I probably won't be finished with the whole league until at least a week from now.

     

     

    Keep in mind, while I won't reveal the formula yet, there IS possibly a flaw to the rating, which has to do with stats that aren't tracked yet. Whenever (if ever) they are in the future, that is when I'll be able to fix the issue. So for now, while it's best not take the rating completely literally, I do find it very accurate for what it is.

     

    Also remember, this is not so much about efficiency as it is about ability.

     

     

     

    Eastern Conference Teams

     

     

    Chicago Bulls: 62 - 20

     

    Derrick Rose - 81.884

    Carlos Boozer - 77.906

    Luol Deng - 73.216

    Kyle Korver - 71.385

    C.J. Watson - 68.764

    Joakim Noah - 65.158

    Taj Gibson - 63.950

    Ronnie Brewer - 58.090

    Kieth Bogans - 51.138

    Omer Asik - 45.171

    Kurt Thomas - 31.373

     

    ------ Less than 41 Played Games:

    Brian Scalabrine - 45.544 (18 games)

    John Lucas - 58.315 (2 games)

     

    ------ Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Rasual Butler - 80.131 (TOT - 59.847)

    --- Left:

    James Johnson - 66.700 (TOT - 62.487)

     

     

    Miami Heat: 58 - 24

     

    Dwyane Wade - 82.598

    LeBron James - 82.460

    Chris Bosh - 77.336

    Eddie House - 69.079

    James Jones - 64.239

    Zydrunas Ilgauskas - 62.385

    Mario Chalmers - 57.131

    Mike Miller - 56.052

    Juwan Howard - 50.353

    Erick Dampier - 19.704

    Joel Anthony - -21.304

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Jamaal Magloire - 45.093 (18 games)

    Udonis Haslem - 60.665 (13 games)

    Jerry Stackhouse - 56.044 (7 games)

    Dexter Pittman - 53.647 (2 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Mike Bibby - 54.411 (TOT - 60.384)

    --- Left:

    Carlos Arroyo - 56.455 (TOT - 54.194)

     

     

    Boston Celtics: 56 - 26

     

    Paul Pierce - 78.592

    Kevin Garnett - 75.751

    Ray Allen - 75.196

    Glen Davis - 72.097

    Von Wafer - 66.050

    Marquis Daniels - 60.177

    Rajon Rondo - 59.620

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Shaquille O'Neal - 73.057 (37 games)

    Avery Bradley - 69.739 (30 games)

    Jermaine O'Neal - 61.332 (24 games)

    Delonte West - 60.293 (24 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Jeff Green - 72.733 (TOT - 71.356)

    Nenad Krstic - 70.710 (TOT - 67.845)

    Carlos Arroyo - 43.125 (TOT - 54.194)

    Troy Murphy - 53.944 (TOT - 53.120)

    Chris Johnson - 26.266 (TOT - 47.966)

    Sasha Pavlovic - 42.899 (TOT - 45.327)

    --- Left:

    Nate Robinson - 70.829 (TOT - 70.946)

    Luke Harangody - 59.929 (TOT - 63.160)

    Semih Erden - 56.047 (TOT - 53.255)

    Kendrick Perkins - 55.975 (TOT - 47.410)

     

     

    Orlando Magic: 52 - 30

     

    Dwight Howard - 79.428

    Ryan Anderson - 75.784

    Brandon Bass - 72.160

    Jameer Nelson - 71.329

    J.J. Redick - 69.918

    Quentin Richardson - 56.736

    Chris Duhon - 30.298

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Malik Allen - 21.948 (18 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Jason Richardson - 70.658 (TOT - 74.726)

    Gilbert Arenas - 69.155 (TOT - 71.704)

    Earl Clark - 66.195 (TOT - 66.565)

    Hedo Turkoglu - 63.598 (TOT - 64.596)

    --- Left:

    Vince Carter - 76.281 (TOT - 76.212)

    Marcin Gortat - 51.390 (TOT - 69.738)

    Mickael Pietrus - 61.177 (TOT - 67.930)

    Rashard Lewis - 68.481 (TOT - 66.629)

    Jason Williams - 42.256 (TOT - 40.790)

     

     

    Atlanta Hawks: 44 - 38

     

    Joe Johnson - 77.778

    Josh Smith - 75.542

    Jamal Crawford - 75.016

    Al Horford - 73.360

    Jeff Teague - 68.806

    Marvin Williams - 68.446

    Josh Powell - 66.206

    Zaza Pachulia - 56.868

    Damien Wilkins - 56.184

    Jason Collins - 25.160

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Etan Thomas - 69.296 (13 games)

    Pape Sy - 65.785 (3 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Kirk Hinrich - 60.648 (TOT - 63.496)

    Hilton Armstrong - 43.280 (TOT - 33.736)

    --- Left:

    Jordan Crawford - 74.398 (TOT - 75.267)

    Maurice Evens - 56.051 (TOT - 61.108)

    Mike Bibby - 62.478 (TOT - 60.384)

     

     

    New York Knicks: 42 - 40

     

    Amar'e Stoudemire - 81.745

    Toney Douglas - 71.832

    Bill Walker - 66.838

    Shawne Williams - 64.038

    Landry Fields - 59.328

    Ronny Turiaf - 44.040

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Roger Mason - 50.576 (26 games)

    Andy Rautins - 65.433 (5 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Carmelo Anthony - 83.128 (TOT - 82.826)

    Chauncey Billups - 77.096 (TOT - 75.383)

    Derrick Brown - 64.315 (TOT - 61.102)

    Sheldon Williams - 63.308 (TOT - 57.137)

    Renaldo Balkman - 35.484 (TOT - 53.839)

    Anthony Carter - 52.201 (TOT - 47.340)

    Jared Jeffries - -10.249 (TOT - 12.218)

    --- Left:

    Anthony Randolph - 62.682 (TOT - 75.196)

    Danilo Gallinari - 73.530 (TOT - 73.438)

    Wilson Chandler - 74.558 (TOT - 73.424)

    Raymond Felton - 71.610 (TOT - 70.341)

    Timofey Mozgov - 57.062 (TOT - 59.364)

     

     

    Philadelphia 76ers: 41 - 41

     

    Louis Williams - 79.937

    Thaddeus Young - 75.825

    Marresse Speights - 74.650

    Elton Brand - 72.957

    Jrue Holiday - 69.193

    Jodie Meeks - 68.741

    Andre Iguodala - 68.557

    Andres Nocioni - 65.703

    Spencer Hawes - 65.612

    Evan Turner - 62.929

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Tony Battie - 56.010 (38 games)

    Jason Kapono - 39.734 (24 games)

    Darius Songaila - 47.753 (10 games)

    Antonio Daniels - 30.743 (4 games)

    Craig Brackins - 66.368 (3 games)

     

     

    Indiana Pacers: 37 - 45

     

    Danny Granger - 78.589

    Tyler Hansbrough - 75.511

    Dahntay Jones - 74.121

    Roy Hibbert - 72.708

    Darren Collison - 71.128

    A.J. Price - 70.668

    Mike Dunleavy - 69.258

    Paul George - 66.498

    Brandon Rush - 64.161

    Josh McRoberts - 60.527

    T.J. Ford - 59.364

    James Posey - 58.123

    Jeff Foster - 38.640

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Solomon Jones - 53.901 (39 games)

    Lance Stephenson - 65.108 (12 games)

     

     

     

    Western Conference Teams

     

     

    San Antonio Spurs: 61 - 21

     

    Manu Ginobili - 78.762

    Tony Parker - 77.284

    Tim Duncan - 74.780

    DeJuan Blair - 74.286

    George Hill - 70.634

    Gary Neal - 68.967

    Tiago Splitter - 68.136

    Richard Jefferson - 66.882

    Matt Bonner - 66.156

    Antonio McDyess - 59.953

    Chris Quinn - 59.927

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    James Anderson - 63.501 (26 games)

    Danny Green - 72.714 (8 games)

    Ime Udoka - 19.018 (20 games)

    Bobby Simmons - -16.279 (2 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Steve Novak - 78.793 (TOT - 79.496)*

    --- Left:

    Garrett Temple - 38.909 (TOT - 59.209)

    Alonzo Gee - 30.237 (TOT - 57.760)

    Othyus Jeffers - 62.296 (TOT - 56.107)

    Larry Owens - 63.478 (TOT - 55.205)

     

     

    Los Angeles Lakers: 57 - 25

     

    Kobe Bryant - 83.823

    Pau Gasol - 76.396

    Shannon Brown - 73.937

    Lamar Odom - 72.593

    Andrew Bynum - 69.804

    Derrick Caracter - 66.933

    Matt Barnes - 64.193

    Ron Artest - 59.428

    Derek Fisher - 51.723

    Luke Walton - 44.379

    Steve Blake - 39.823

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Deven Ebanks - 77.616 (20 games)

    Theo Ratliff - -65.282 (10 games)*

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Trey Johnson - 83.309 (TOT - 67.629)

    Joe Smith - 32.249 (TOT - 45.489)

    --- Left:

    Sasha Vujacic - 69.901 (TOT - 70.839)

     

     

    Dallas Mavericks: 57 - 25

     

    Dirk Nowitzki - 82.757

    Jason Terry - 76.495

    Jose Barea - 73.873

    Shawn Marion - 73.193

    Tyson Chandler - 67.096

    Ian Mahinmi - 65.379

    DeShawn Stevensen - 64.473

    Brendan Haywood - 50.567

    Jason Kidd - 50.079

    Brian Cardinal - 49.157

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Caron Butler - 76.851 (29 games)

    Rodrigue Beaubois - 75.257 (28 games)

    Dominique Jones - 65.952 (18 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Peja Stojakovic - 75.117 (TOT - 73.655)

    Corey Brewer - 74.109 (TOT - 65.778)

    --- Left:

    Steve Novak - 85.000 (TOT - 79.496)

    Alexis Ajinca - 72.375 (TOT - 71.415)

    Sasha Pavlovic - 52.958 (TOT - 45.327)

     

     

    Oklahoma City Thunder: 57 - 25

     

    Kevin Durant - 82.908

    Russell Westbrook - 80.319

    James Harden - 74.455

    Daequan Cook - 73.193

    Serge Ibaka - 67.051

    Erick Maynor - 58.567

    Nick Collison - 40.988

    Thabo Sefolosha - 37.596

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Royal Ivey - 54.187 (25 games)

    Cole Aldrich - 1.558 (18 games)

    Byron Mullins - 64.782 (13 games)

    Morris Peterson - 39.394 (4 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Nazr Mohammed - 67.658 (TOT - 71.568)

    Nate Robinson - 75.227 (TOT - 70.946)

    Kendrick Perkins - 38.998 (TOT - 47.410)

    --- Left:

    Jeff Green - 70.722 (TOT - 71.356)

    Nenad Krstic - 66.088 (TOT - 67.845)

    D.J. White - 60.880 (TOT - 71.044)

     

     

    Denver Nuggets: 50 - 32

     

    J.R. Smith - 75.054

    Nene Hilario - 73.897

    Al Harrington - 73.124

    Ty Lawson - 71.225

    Gary Forbes - 69.953

    Aaron Afflalo - 67.563

    Chris Andersen - 63.798

    Kenyon Martin - 63.220

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Melvin Ely - 30.700 (30 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Danilo Gallinari - 73.551 (TOT - 73.438)

    Wilson Chandler - 70.068 (TOT - 73.424)

    Raymond Felton - 65.487 (TOT - 70.341)

    Kosta Koufos - 75.227 (TOT - 66.233)

    Timofey Mozgov - 70.848 (TOT - 59.364)

    --- Left:

    Carmelo Anthony - 82.627 (TOT - 82.826)

    Chauncey Billups - 74.505 (TOT - 75.383)

    Sheldon Williams - 55.922 (TOT - 57.137)

    Renaldo Balkman - 63.670 (TOT - 53.839)

    Anthony Carter - 40.419 (TOT - 47.340)

     

     

    Portland Trail Blazers: 48 - 34

     

    LaMarcus Aldridge - 79.009

    Wesley Matthews - 74.954

    Brandon Roy - 74.059

    Patrick Mills - 73.835

    Nicolas Batum - 70.469

    Andre Miller - 69.007

    Rudy Fernandez - 68.034

    Dante Cunningham - 56.429

    Marcus Camby - 38.718

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Armon Johnson - 70.120 (38 games)

    Sean Marks - 46.270 (29 games)

    Luke Babbit - 65.484 (24 games)

    Sean Marks - 46.270 (5 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Gerald Wallace - 72.570 (TOT - 71.229)

    Earl Barron - 54.304 (TOT - 60.622)

    Jarron Collins - 00.269 (TOT - 36.430)

    --- Left:

    Chris Johnson - 36.430 (TOT - 47.966)

    Joel Przybilla - –7.278 (TOT - –16.646)

     

     

    New Orleans Hornets: 46 - 36

     

    David West - 78.614

    Marco Belinelli - 73.435

    Chris Paul - 73.238

    Willie Green - 72.196

    Trevor Ariza - 64.636

    Emeka Okafor - 63.451

    Jason Smith - 62.558

    Quincy Pondexter - 57.233

    Aaron Gray - 50.717

    Didier Ilunga-Mbenga - 33.736

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Patrick Ewing Jr. - 57.914 (7 games)

    Pops Mensah-Bonsu - –45.191 (7 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Jarrett Jack - 73.096 (TOT - 73.996)

    Carl Landry - 75.124 (TOT - 72.540)

    David Andersen - 67.482 (TOT - 67.108)

    --- Left:

    Marcus Thornton - 76.778 (TOT - 77.136)

    Peja Stojakovic - 77.434 (TOT - 75.117)

    Jerryd Bayless - 67.621 (TOT - 71.147)

    Sasha Pavlovic - 23.515 (TOT - 45.327)

     

     

    Memphis Grizzlies: 46 - 36

     

    Zach Randolph - 78.001

    Rudy Gay - 75.282

    Darrell Arthur - 73.139

    O.J. Mayo - 72.140

    Tony Allen - 71.211

    Mike Conley - 68.072

    Sam Young - 66.748

    Marc Gasol - 65.786

    Greivis Vasquez - 57.664

     

    ------- Less than 41 Played Games:

    Hamed Haddadi - 72.101 (31 games)

     

    ------- Traded Players:

    --- Acquired:

    Leon Powe - 80.887 (TOT - 75.474)

    Rodney Carney - 75.387 (TOT - 67.199)

    Shane Battier - 67.482 (TOT - 51.848)

    Ishmael Smith - 56.290 (TOT - 50.827)

    Jason Williams - 39.010 (TOT - 40.788)

    --- Left:

    Marcus Thornton - 76.778 (TOT - 77.136)

    Acie Law - 39.975 (TOT - 57.965)

    DeMarre Carroll - 56.667 (TOT - 47.241)

    Hasheem Thabeet - 14.916 (TOT - 14.454)

  4. What you are not understanding is the effect this has on the QUALITY of the game.

     

    The quality of the game has grown drastically and continues to evolve. If Michael Jordan were to play today, he would be one of the stars and not the star. Magic Johnson would not be a star but perhaps a role player (and he certainly wouldn't be playing PG). Just look at his poor shooting form AND poor handles compared to today. Larry Bird may be a bench player. Dr J would be an athletic "project" player at best, but most probably a D-League player. Jerry West would not even be a D-1 college player. He couldn't dribble with his LEFT HAND.

     

    The idea that basketball is somehow getting worse is utterly ridiculous. Please, watch some old basketball games before making these kind of comparisons.

     

    Before I go any further, what is the most profitable and popular sport in America, the NFL. What has the NFL truly established in the last 10 years?

     

    But the NBA is much more popular world-wide, has many overseas players within the league, and the association will be expanding teams to Europe within the next 10 years, while the NFL is almost strictly American (or so I think). I don't get what you are trying to say here.

     

    Jermaine O'Neal is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. He was drafted out of high school and essentially spent his first 4 years in the NBA doing the development he should have been doing in college for 4 years. He was NOT NBA ready, even though he had the makeup of an eventual all star. So what happens? Portland pays him millions of dollars to develop his skills for 4 years, so that he can get out of his contract when he was ACTUALLY ready to contribute so that he could become an all star on Indiana. Now, I know that you will tell me that GM's should know better and shouldn't have drafted him, but the cycle that has now been created has left the college ranks so dry because of early entrants, the only thing NBA franchises have left to choose from is "talented" but untested freshman and sophomores, rather than proven AND skilled upperclassmen ready to contribute at elite levels.

     

    And there you have it. Drafting younger players forces scouts to do a better job. Is that the problem? No.

     

    But the real problem is, as you just said, it leaves colleges without top talent players. And so I repeat myself as usual in these type of arguments.

     

    LOL is that why tv ratings are up 11% from last year from the tourney?

     

    Why did the college ratings go up? Oh. I dunno... maybe because of that 1 year policy made not so long ago by the NBA? Made after having such an increase in high school drafted players in the early 2000s?

     

    Think about it. It wasn't a problem when there weren't many going straight from high school to the pros. But the less high talents are going to college, the longer players will be forced to play there. Trust me. This trend will continue if this two-year rule is made

     

     

    I don't think you fully grasped the concept of a CBA...You do realize the NBA is instituting all of this, the NCAA while gladly would accept the opportunity to play these talented kids, have no part in this decision.

     

    So you honestly believe the NCAA has absolutely NO part in this whatsoever? OK.

     

     

    Yes, just tell that to Latrell Sprewell, Kenny Anderson, and even Scottie Pippen....

     

    ...and to Antoine Walker and Allen Iverson.... blah blah blah.

     

    Basketball ≠ Knowing how to handle money and themselves. Is there an age limit for acting? No. It's the young actors and their parent's responsibility to know how to handle their own money and obey the law. Not Hollywood's. Not the NBA's.

  5. ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM

    C - Dwight Howard

    F - Kevin Durant

    F - LeBron James

    G - Kobe Bryant

    G - Dwyane Wade

     

    ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM

    C - Amar'e Stoudemire

    F - Dirk Nowitzki

    F - Carmelo Anthony

    G - Kevin Martin

    G - Chris Paul

     

    ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM

    C - Tim Duncan

    F - Blake Griffin

    F - Kevin Love

    G - Derrick Rose

    G - Russell Westbrook

     

     

    And I know there's no such thing but.... just for fun:

     

     

    ALL-NBA FOURTH TEAM

    C - Al Jefferson

    F - LaMarcus Aldridge

    F - Danny Granger

    G - Manu Ginobili

    G - Monta Ellis

     

    ALL-NBA FIFTH TEAM

    C - Pau Gasol

    F - David West

    F - Paul Pierce

    G - Deron Williams

    G - Tony Parker

     

     

    HONORABLE MENTION:

    C - Nene Hilario

    F - Chris Bosh

    F - Carlos Boozer

    F - Zach Randolph

    G - Chauncey Billups

  6. I'm sick of seeing players being drafted based on potential, especially with the way the league is today.

     

    So is that a reason for every high school player to have to wait two years to play in the NBA? Because they might not be good?

     

    What about the players that DO wind up good, like the Kobe Bryants and the Kevin Garnetts? Is it really because there is a chance you might end up with a Kwame Brown, that there should be a rule against it?

     

    What about the college players that might NOT be good? You may wind up with a Tim Duncan, or you may wind up with an Adam Morrison. Would that be a reason to force players to play in the Euroleague after college before the pros?

     

     

    Or can we just admit that it's all BS. Players might be good making the transition from college, making the transition from high school, or the Euroleague. Or they might be bad. But in the end, you know who's choice it is to draft them. The team and the management. They need to do the proper scouting to make sure they got the right guy. If they didn't, it's their fault. It's was their choice.

     

    Besides, teams are starting to draft players that aren't quite NBA-ready and allow them to develop in the Euroleague before fully adding them to the roster. It's not like you can't do the same with high school players!

     

     

    Just admit it. It's only because college is losing public interest because all the good players are going to the NBA draft younger and younger. All the good players that puts colleges in the spotlight, like the Bird - Magic rivalry, are becoming scarce. It's simple. They want the good players too because they want to keep making money off it.

     

    And that's BS. I say, the best league should get the best players no matter what. If you are good enough to play at the highest level, there should be nothing holding the player back. Besides, you don't need an education to be good at basketball.

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  7. This rule was originally made because the NCAA is afraid that the NBA is taking all the good players, and colleges want some too. Now they are they are saying that the NCAA only gets good players for one year, while the NBA gets them for 10+. Well that ain't no fair! Right??

     

    Can't we just admit college basketball sucks? Nobody wants to play there when they can play in the N-B-freaking-A, and get PAYED doing it (well, payed more than college).

     

    I wouldn't be surprised if, one day, it's extended to four years. [expletive] college.

  8. She averaged 30 and 10 at Gonzaga which is mindblowing. She can pass, score, play defense, and pretty much do everything. Im going to go out on a limb here and say that she will be the greatest PG to play in the WNBA based on what she did in Gonzaga.

     

    The only reason she went third (and I truly believe she should have been picked second), is because of how deep the draft was this year.

     

    First Maya Moore was a "no-brainer" as a first pick, she's going to be incredible. Possibly better than Diana Taurasi.

     

    Second, Elizabeth Cambage's potential is believed to be sky-high because of her height and shooting ability for being a 6'8'' player, though personally I whole-heartedly believe she is just a project player at this point. Looking at game-film, she doesn't have much true skill at all, and no way is she going to be getting the ball so deep under the basket so easily at the WNBA level. Unlike the Australian league where talent level and b-ball IQ is low in comparison and everyone around her is half her size, she's going to actually have to work for her points, which will take a while for her to acquire the skills necessary to be effective. Which isn't a problem for a team with no talent or depth in the Tulsa Shock (only won 6 games last year).

     

    Third, Amber Harris could have easily been picked higher than her because of her height (nearly 6'6'' and is a PF), athleticism, quickness, and rare abilities with the basketball like ball handling and three-point shooting. She's going to be a terrific player as well.

     

     

    Also, especially after this draft, Minnesota is STACKED. They chose the Thunder approach to building a team through the draft, and it really payed off. Believe me, they are going to be scary.

  9. Q & A with Gonzaga's Courtney Vandersloot

    By Frank Della Femina, WNBA.com

     

    http://www.wnba.com/media/draft/2011/vandersloot_620_110410.jpg

     

    Gonzaga point guard Courtney Vandersloot has been compared to NBA legend John Stockton, the NHL's Wayne Gretzky and the Seattle Storm's Sue Bird. Given her ability to become the first player in Division I history to amass 2,000 career points and 1,000 career assists, there's a good chance she will one day be the one players are compared to for years to come.

     

    WNBA.com: To finish college with over 2,000 points and over 1,000 assists, what’s it like to leave your mark on not just women’s college basketball but the sport of college basketball as a whole?

     

    Courtney Vandersloot: I think it says a lot about our program and what the program I played in and system I played in. I had teammates. I was in the rare position where I was asked to score and create for others, and that’s just the system I was in and I had teammates behind me who could step up and make the baskets. So it means a lot. It’s been so hectic since the end of the season that with the upcoming Draft it’s been hard to sit and think about it, but I think it will be something that I look back to and think that it was pretty cool.

     

    WNBA.com: An NBA legend like John Stockton has had nothing but great things to say about you. Do you know each other well or talk regularly?

     

    CV: Always [laughs]. He’s around once in a while and every time you have someone like that in your presence you always want to make it a point to at least say hi and he’s one of the most down-to-earth people I’ve ever met. He wants to talk to everybody. It’s not just me, it’s the team. It’s everybody. I think it says a lot about who he is. He has such a mark on the NBA and he’s still from small-town Spokane and wants to talk to everyone.

    WNBA.com: Would you say he’s developed into a role model for you?

     

    CV: Absolutely. Just the way he handles himself and his style and how he plays and everything he’s done. He was a little bit before my time but obviously I’ve had the chance to look back and see what he’s done.

     

    Full Q & A Here: http://www.wnba.com/draft/2011/vandersloot_qanda_110410.html

     

     

    I have seen mock drafts project her as low as 10th. That is absurd. I think she will become the best Point Guard in the WNBA, and in my opinion, the first elite basketball player to play the PG position in the WNBA (no, I do not consider Sue Bird to be an elite overall player). I will have my eye on her in the upcoming seasons and the team that drafts her.

  10. The media has already picked Rose a long time ago, so it's not worth arguing who WILL be MVP. There is no question.

     

     

    However, you CAN make an argument on who truly deserves it. But if I were to speak about anyone other than Derrick Rose, I'm already going against the norm. And as you've probably guessed at this point, I don't believe the true deserving player to be Derrick Rose. Actually, when a saw this poll a few months ago on realgm asking who the MVP was so far that season - after a brief moment contemplating - I selected an answer, and was completely surprised to see Derrick Rose get nearly 50% of the votes. That's because I don't watch ESPN or NBA TV (unless I'm watching a basketball game), or read much basketball news other than the basic stuff, so I guess not much has influenced my opinion other than actually watching games and analyzing stats.

     

    I discussed on a couple forums about the actual reasons the Bulls are good: their defense and their rebounding (which they are among the top of the league in both categories). Rose impacts neither. His impact is scoring, and the Bulls are only an average offensive team. Rose's offensive efficiency is also about average. He just has volume numbers because of his extremely high usage in the offense (though he does have the talent to maintain the average offensive efficiency despite the high usage).

     

    Of course, all this and more falls on deaf ears. Months later, I start seeing articles by people like John Hollinger and someone on the NY times named Niel Paine (also the creator of basketball-reference.com) expressing similar points, and Stan Van Gundy echoed the same opinion on the media hype over Rose.

     

     

    As for my opinion on who really deserves MVP? I once thought it was Dwight Howard. Advanced statistics (like PER and Win Shares) suggest that it's LeBron James.

     

    After making my own statistical discovery, I'm starting to think Kobe Bryant deserves MVP this year. And may have been robbed of several more throughout his career. I'll make a final decision when the season is over.

  11. LOL no. Because they think all girls are supposed to do is make sandwiches and be in the kitche. LOL I dont give two flying geese eggs whats said over the internet, but when it comes to stuff like that hell yeah.

     

    Usually when that's said it's in a light-hearted joke that has no reason to be taken seriously, or perhaps someone will use it for the sake of getting under your skin, but don't truly believe it. Not to say woman aren't often degraded intentionally, though, but this shit is absolutely nothing compared to what women have to deal with in some places outside the states.

     

     

    Anyway, I don't think this video is directed at girls in general. Just the ones that are especially loud about playing video games, and somehow think they are special for it.

  12. I wish I could be more specific, but I haven't caught enough games as of late with school and work to really get down into specific details.

     

    Thanks a lot for giving what you know. You gave me a better picture than what I've started with.

     

     

    It's of my belief that GMs should always pick the best quality player, not the players that might turn out good (depending how complete the current team is - a team like the Celtics should probably use their picks on a "potential" guy). For this reason, I'd most probably choose Barnes over Perry (assuming there aren't any better players other than Irving). From there, see what skills he already fully possesses, see what assets that are incomplete and need solidifying, and see what elements he needs to add to his game.

     

    For Perry, it sounds like his main - or maybe his only - asset is his size for his possible position. If that's the case, then NBA teams would have to completely mold him into a basketball player. That's taking blind chances, because you don't know where the prime of his abilities lies, even if he is a hard worker. You don't know how much range he can gain, how well he can potentially post, his willingness to rebound at the NBA level, etc. You can tell that some things may come easier with having that size and athleticism, but basically like you said, he may break through or he may bust.

     

     

    'Potential' to me is a vague word. Players start out with a set of skills and abilities, and how much the player will actually improve is unknown. Any player can become good.

     

     

    Well with that said, Barnes does sound like he could be a good pick up for the Raptors, though it would be ignorant for me to say for sure.

  13. I really, really doubt that it happens. Not even Riley would be able to get that to happen. LeBron will have the ball in his hands, and Bibby will be playing off it. Bron isn't going to come off screens and take jumpers, or cut to the rim and look to Bibby to make his plays. That's far out of character.

     

    Wade would defer well before LeBron does. Last season, I saw Chalmers in that position a few times, and he's not even that great running an offense. How many times did we see Mo Williams with the ball, making plays for LeBron? I'm not even sure if he did that 5+ times in any game of his career as James' teammate.

     

    And how many championships did Cleveland win?

     

     

    Though LeBron and Wade may have better ball handling abilities than the vast majority of wing players in the league, neither have the offensive mentality of a true point guard. Whenever LeBron or Wade take up the ball, it's either a pick and role, an isolation, or some sort of freelance offense. They hardly ever run a set offense, which is the reason Arroyo started for a good portion of the season.

     

    Recently Chalmers has been given that role to be a floor general (to some degree), and the Heat did a particularly well running and sticking to a set offense last game against the Magic in the first half, as they built their 24 point lead. It was in the second half when LeBron and Wade felt the pressure from Orlando creeping in on the Heat's lead, and they felt the need to "do their thing" and match their opponent's scoring by themselves. At times it may work since they are such damn good players, but against good defenses that know how to take away the sweet spots from the superstar, you are rolling the dice playing isolation basketball. Against the well-coached Magic team with their DPOY in the paint, the Heat suffered major droughts, and the Magic were able to shoot their way into a victory.

     

    Chalmers does not have the experience, toughness, the basketball IQ, and also has zero influence over the "Big Three" to get them to settle down and get in the right places in key moments of the game. This is a very important "intangible" in basketball, and possibly the reason a guy like Derek Fisher still starts for the Lakers despite lacking in some ability. It's also a key part of the reason the Knicks beat the Heat last weekend, because Chauncey excels at this leadership stuff.

     

    This is something I hope Bibby is capable of, though I don't know him well enough to know for sure. At least I know he will bring shooting, a decrease in team turnover ratio, and an underrated screen-setting ability. I hope he starts soon enough.

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