EastCoastNiner

I read what you wrote, and I don't see what it has to do with what you quoted. I'm not talking about people in prison, but people who will fear going to prison in the first place. Also, that's kind of a blanket statement you're making. I'm sure you have some statistics to back up your claims, but I'm not buying all of it.

You can hook me up with Brady in a package deal..... I haven't given this much thought as I'm going to bed soon, but maybe something like: Brady Gronkowski Bradshaw For: White Steven Jackson Maybe I could add Tony Gonalez?

I'll take a look at your team and get back to you. However, I wouldn't be willing to give a significant amount up for either of them, as I don't view them as substantial fantasy football QB upgrades.

Sims-Walker+Welker+for Dez type deal?

If I dealt him to you, I would be short on HB's because I don't want to trade him for C.J., and I value Dez more than Vincent Jackson by a large amount.

Damn. Why the hell does Fish have to have Brady AND Gronkowski. You have Cutler.....you don't need Brady. I have Steven Jackson+ available. I need them!!!!!!!!!!

I have interest in Chris Johnson, but I'm not sure what you would be asking for him. Do you value Vincent Jackson or Dez Bryant more?

I'm looking for a possible upgrade at QB, and I would also like to potentially upgrade my HB position.

My Team: QB- Alex Smith QB- Ryan Fitzpatrick HB- Steven Jackson HB- Fred Jackson HB- Stevan Ridlay WR- Roddy White WR- Dez Bryant WR- Mike Williams (TB) WR- Sidney Rice TE- Aaron Hernandez K- Stephan Gostkowski DEF- New England Patriots D- Patrick Willis

Still only nine people. Someone just join...

So...then the population size and diversity does matter when statistics show minorities commit the majority of crimes, and the U.S. has a much larger African American population than Norway, and I'm assuming the percentage is much greater as well. It's not just apples and oranges.

There's little doubt in my mind that those prisoners got the shit beaten out of them when they first arrived, and get beaten quite often. Did you see the look on the wardens face when he said something along the lines of, "There is only one way out, and that's the morgue". . Also, lkr, you aren't making sense. You are talking about people that are in jail already being rehabilitated. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about prisons like in Russia where people don't want to go to. Having a nice prison system is not going to deter people from committing crimes. You're spewing your rehabilitation garbage again when it has no place with what is being discussed. We aren't talking about preventing former criminals from committing crimes again, but rather about deterring people from committing crimes in the first place.

I can't change anything about the draft until I get a 10th person because it won't let me edit without an even amount of teams. Does Wednesday night work? Maybe 10 pm. E.T.? Also, I will start trying to PM everyone that is in this league to remind them.

There's too many variables. Even though it's a misguided statistic, I'll play along with lkr and say that Norway has a higher standard of living, so there should be less crime. The U.S. has a lot of heavily populated cities, and they contribute for a large portion of the crime. There's just no logical reason for me to believe that the nicer the prisons are, the less likely people are to commit crime. It just doesn't make any sense that way. The way the Russians run shit is beastly.

It has nothing to do with the prison system. Tell me how having a "nice" prison is going to discourage people from committing crimes and being placed in there in the first place. They also don't have nearly as many ghettos and cities, and also don't have a lot of African American's who live in poor areas that commit most violent crimes. Please, though, tell me how Norway's prisons that are luxurious can be attributed to low crime rate.

That makes no sense at all. You get rid of crime by keeping those that commit crime in prison. You make them hate it so they never want to go back. Oh, but we should just give them t.v., larger portions of food, lots of social time, ect. .

This just isn't going to work. It's probably better to just not do it than have a shitty league. I tried to get people to join, but no one is joining. I don't get why people in the other league on otr won't just join this one as well....

This is how it should be in the U.S., especially with the first prison. "Assume the position" "Yes, sir" http://vimeo.com/27165926

Matt Barkley is absolute trash. He'll never be anything more than a Jimmy Clausen 2.0 in the NFL if anyone even drafts him, and I'd easily take Jacory Harris, Jordan Jefferson, E.J. Manuel, and a lot more QB's over Barkley.

Comeback time.

The Pac-10 blows.

Alright. If you get more people, send me a PM. I really want to do this league, but I just don't know people that want to join.

It's always hard to tell with Maple Leafs fans.

What? Nothing you said there just made sense. Are you trying to make fun of him? You just said he makes up for it by getting burned. . Or, is it that his big jumping hits make up for it? I'm so confused right now. . I was also joking.

I'm looking at Phaneuf. :glasses: .