Mike Hawk

Also I would take Magics Leadership, and Sportmanship anyday over Kobes, Plus a Better team Player. So who is better overall?

So is Barkley Better than Malone. I love how you bring something completely irrelevant into the topic.

But Here Lets Look at some Career Stats. Kobe Bryant. G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG Career -- 948 800 36.4 0.455 0.341 0.840 1.2 4.1 5.3 4.6 1.5 0.5 2.90 2.70 25.1 Magic: G FG% FT% St. Blk. 906 .520 .848 1724 374 RPG APG PPG 7.2 11.2 19.5 IF we take Magics Assits Cut them in Half put them on his Scoring average, because he could have easily been scoring instead of passing the ball. According to your Logic He is better than Kobe then. Also Magic has a better Free trhow shooting percentage, Field goal Percentage, More rebounds, More Steals Per Game. So explain to me how Kobe is Better, and How Kobe is better on D, when Magic got more Steals?

When Duncan and Kobe make the Hall of Fame, which they will. Then we can compare, until then you cant.

Then how can you compare Kobe and Magic, they didnt even play the same positions. Nor did they have the same roles on their teams. Thats like comparing a Center to a PG, and expecting the PG to have more rebounds.

I guess I should stop watching Basketball. Apperently Kobe Bryant is Currently better than the past Legends who have made the hall of fame.

So is Kobe better than Jordan also Minus the Rings?

Its Amazing how stubborn you are at times.

Quantity in Scoring not rings. Thats why I used the AI example. Face it you know this, i know this. Kobe would get crushed from the type of Defenses Magic had to face in his days. I think Dennis Rodman could shut kobe down in his prime.

haha, yeah he would.

FU

LOL, I think its a flawed logic to approach the game this way. You have to realize most of these guys that got rings, had to sacrafice something else to get them. Pippen probably had to sacrafice his scoring because he was playing with alongside the greatest scorer of all time. Things like that you need to take into effect. LOOK at AI, he is a great scorer but no rings, all hype no show..

Insult to injury geez LOL.

Wow how nice and thoughtful of you. Ungreatful AHOLE.

I will take quality aka Magic, over Quantity aka Kobe anyday. I am sure Magic could have scored more points and been more impressive than Kobe if he wanted to, it could have been done easily. Keep in mind his career was cut short by Aids, I think he would have reached an even higher apex than he had when he left. Its like saying AI is better than Kobe, because he can score more points.

Whos the better team player? Magic or Kobe? Therefore you know who is more valuable to a team.

Have you tried the Black and White one Sheed, Its even better than the regular one.

Overall around better player. Magic easily, He could play all the 5 positions as evident by him Playing Center against Philadelphia, you can make him C, PF, SF, SG, PG. I dont think Kobe could play C or PF by any strech.

2K5.

Sure sure thats what they all say.

All you guys need to go visit Europe, because you are over-reacting. How come it is, that only in this country we seem to have the most alcohol accidents? I think the kids here are being taught to pull back at an early age, and the more you tell kids not to do something the more they do it. The younger they are when they find out that they have to be responsible for their actions the more they will care. There is plenty of other things and [expletive] out there that can kill you. Many Medical Drugs in this country have been known to cause death. I will not let a bottle of alcohol worry me about dying when I know I could die of so many other things. But with alcohol and everything else including drugs. There is limits, those people who cant control their drugs or alcohol should not do them. And yes you can control your alchol intake contrary to popular belief.

I am sure Real can enlighten you on this.

thats Kaka.

Way to turn KIR into an off topic discussion forum.

Thanks RTarted Ahole. Last time I checked I was not asking you the questions.