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very good point, but considering the state we were in last week, these two trades really make up for it
i really wish he would just swallow his pride and commit to rebuilding though
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The revolving door that is the Toronto Raptors' off-season keeps on spinning.
We all knew Chris Bosh was on his way out of town. Who knew that both Hedo Turkoglu and Jose Calderon would be following him? It is a new beginning for many Raptors fans who have accepted that next season should be a sombre one. With the trading of these two, Raptors management has put themselves in a position to spend in upcoming free agency classes (Chris Paul/Deron Williams, anyone?).
The Raptors opened with trading Hedo Turkoglu, last year’s prize acquisition turned disappointment extraordinaire, for a serviceable backup in Leandro Barbosa, along with a trade chip in Dwayne Jones.
This will allow Barbosa to either become a starter for the first time in his career, or give the Raptors a former 6th man of the year who provides explosive scoring and savvy perimeter defence.
This alone would be a fantastic trade for Raptor fans. Toronto would ultimately be shedding away two years off Hedo’s contract. Both players make roughly the same amount per year. On top of that, Barbosa is one of the quickest players in the league, and able to defend multiple positions.
While I won’t disagree with Turkoglu being the better player of the two, having Barbosa on the team will allow the Raptors to run a very up-tempo system. They already have one of the most athletic back-courts in the league with the likes of Demar DeRozan and Sonny Weems in the fold.
The pairing of Jarrett Jack and Barbosa would also be one of the best defensive back-courts the Raptors have put together in quite some time.
What the Raptors lose is one of the premier point-forwards in the league. Turkoglu has the ability to stretch the floor, create mismatches, and make plays better than anyone standing at 6’10. The only problem is that he didn’t fit in with the Raptors, and was not worth the money they paid.
Now for the second aspect of this trade: Sending Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans, along with the newly acquired Dwayne Jones, to the Charlotte Bobcats for Boris Diaw and Tyson Chandler.
This trade may have ensured Brian Colangelo’s extension with the team.
By turning Calderon’s three-year, $30 million deal into Chandler’s one year, $12.8 million and Diaw’s two year, $18 million contracts, the Raptors are now in position to make a big splash in free agency as soon as next year.
Worst case scenario: Both players are unable to play to their potential, and become bargaining chips in possible trades for teams looking for expiring contracts. Best case, both play to their potential, and give the Raptors fans some hope this upcoming season.
If Chandler can have the same chemistry with Jarrett Jack as he did with Chris Paul, he could very well turn back into a legitimate double-double threat. Especially with the lack of rebounding from the Raptors front-court to begin with. A better, and more realistic hope is for him to simply be healthy, play defence, and rebound. If he can do that, he will fit in nicely with the Raptors.
As for Diaw, he could be the wild card in the deal. With a potential logjam of power forwards on the Raptors roster, it is definitely a possibility he gets flipped to some other team. Rumors have the Raps looking for one more trade this off-season. With as many as six power forwards on the roster, look for one of them to be moved.
Considering how bleak (and expensive) the Raptors future looked last week, these two trades are no doubt a success. These were not made in hopes of building a championship contender (even playoffs still seem a lofty goal), but simply to shed salary in order to prepare for life without Bosh. We in Raptorland have grown used to Colangelo’s flipping of players, and until he commits to rebuilding, we will still remain pessimistic towards our future.
For today, though, I must congratulate Raptors management. You made the right decision. And these Toronto Raptors will be fun to watch.
Just hope they don’t pull a New Jersey.
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this trade just keeps getting better
dumping Evans is huge, as he would just be another overpaid 4 guy for us, id rather see our young bigs get playing time
I have renewed faith in BC now, as long as he doesnt try anything too big and screw us over again lol
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I don't know about greatest mascot dunk ever BANGO would say something because he jumped up flipped backwards and dunked it in
this for sure tops that dunk
thats just plain crazy
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I have a renewed faith in Colangelo now
like was stated above, Raps arent gonna win many games, but this makes them more athletic and they will be fun to watch.
Its not like they were gonna win much with Hedo anyway, and getting rid of that contract makes them in a much better position financially.
PLUS, with Calderon and Barbosa (or weems) coming off the bench, we will have solid depth to make teams hustle all game.
very happy with this, fingers crossed it goes down.
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ahh i gotcha that makes sense, i just read some article and they mentioned that cleveland got a tpe but didnt mention the raps
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from what i read it seems that they didnt get the TPE from Miami, it went to Cleveland.
all the raps got was their pick back and miamis 1st rounder correct?
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glad to see you finally see what weve been saying all these years
if it helps, i would love to see Cleveland win it all next year, just to rub it in lebrons face
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finally the chosen one has arrived in chicago
all that hype for lebron was just a cover for this signing
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The Raptors are just getting players so they dont do completely horrible.
i dont think its working
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wouldnt hate the team so much, but i dont wanna see lebron or bosh with a ring
if they had just told their original teams that they would jump ship, and let they get out with something, id have more respect for them (mainly bosh, i lost all respect for Lebron long ago)
basically dont want Lebron to win a ring, dont want bosh to win a ring yet, wouldnt mind seeing wade win again
so ya, ill be rooting against them, but wont make a difference, theyll be damn good
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if the knicks get azubuike id be so jealous, hopefully he comes back strong after last years injury
hes one of those ultimate glue guys you can plug in and ask anything and he'll deliver
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Called it.
Seriously though, what the [expletive]? Why?
He won't take Beasley at $5M for one more season but he will give Kleiza $5M for 4 seasons? Both make absolutely no sense for this team but at least one of them has the potential to be more than a serviceable role player.
I hate Colangelo. I'm seriously at the point where I would rather have Rob Babcock back than have this moron running the team.
that is a bold statement my friend, one im sure you would take back
but seriously, Colangelo's [expletive]ing up
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why?
why must it be so difficult to be a raptors fan
we need a gm who loves to rebuild, then we might actually stand a chance
at least were in the running to pull a New Jersey Nets, im predicting 13 wins
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I think that deal is just horrible. Hes the only "star"player we have and we are going to trade him for sasha.
and walton, two of the most overpaid players in the league after eddy curry
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lol wow unreal
what ever hes having, ill take one too
i have never seen someone love something that much
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dont worry bft, we might be getting david lee too
so 9th place in the east is a lock
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they should blow it up, but not with any of the ideas you have proposed
id rather see them get young talent back as opposed to just getting salaries to shed in the next year or two
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JUST REBUILD ALREADY!!!!
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hed fit our system, athletic pf with no defense, we have a pass first pg in calderon, and a center that shoots threes
the only difference would be going from the desert to the tundra of a toronto winter
that being said, seriously doubt this happens for basically every reason u mentioned
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I agree with BFT, its not pessimistic, its realistic
i would rather have the money to either grab someone who fits the system, but even more so, id rather dump these long term contracts that do nothing to upgrade our team and instead hinder the raps from rebuilding.
with bosh leaving, its clear that playoffs are gonna be hard to come by, so id rather watch a team with young, cheap pieces and watch them grow rather then wasting money on average players who will do little to really help our team and either get traded again or leave as free agents
raps should just fully commit to rebuilding, take a page from the thunders book and use the draft to actually get players of worth rather then trading for average players who will do nothing to help our team long term
that said, if the raps can shed calderon/turk's contract and somehow pick up a young pg like collison, id be thrilled and consider this offseason a success
i would be thrilled if the raps could get a lineup along the lines of
pg: collison/jack
sg: demar/ belinelli
sf: weems/ another pick up (hopefully a defensive minded player)
pf: davis/ johnson
c: bargnani/alabi
i wouldnt expect more then 25-30 wins, but it would be a young team that would have the chance to grow, with little pressure to deliver wins
Toronto fans are used to underachieving teams (leafs lol) so theyll understand
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glad the grizz get to keep him, 16 mill is a lot, but with his age, he should hopefully blossom into an elite player when his next contract comes up
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lol at him requesting a trade
he was already being shopped regardless, just trying to make it seem that hes leaving on his terms now
hope the wolves can get some good young pieces for him, im a big fan of his play
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1st step in building a dynasty
GM Turned Miracle Worker? How Bryan Colangelo Saved the Raptors Future
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played against thompson and Josephs bro Devoh
pretty excited to see how thompson has developed, he wasnt sensational last i saw him, but he was a gr 10 at that point and has since moved on to the states and with the buzz hes been getting i expect hes improved dramatically