Lightning28

Can't even get past the 1st round with an elite big man and the best center, LOL, I'm sure LeBron would fail that badly or any other wing for that matter. I remember the time McGrady cried due to being such a failure.

Two superstars, can't get past the 1st round, sounds legit.

I was thinking of healthy Yao though and they would definitely win it all in 2009. It's pathetic how Tmac had the best Center in the league and he still couldn't do jack shit with over those years.

Why did you ignore my post on Kobe-Duncan though? thought you would respond.

btw I think the Kobe-Bird comparison is actually really close, might even favor Kobe.

I'm not sure if Kobe was top 3 in '04-'05 since he was pretty much injured and his team missed the post-season. He was top 3 at the very least in all the other seasons and was the best player in the league too. I think Kobe was the best player in the league in '05-'06, '06-'07, '07-'08, and '08-'09. I think Duncan was the best in the league in '98-'99, '02-'03, and '04-'05. I think Kobe wins although a lot of people say LeBron was the best in '08-'09, I don't agree with it though. I personally do not think All-NBA teams and All-NBA Defensive teams mean much mainly because it is just the opinion of other people. I prefer thinking myself and not relying on others to do it for me. A lot of people felt like Kobe wasn't deserving of All-NBA First team over Wade last season anyways. He sure as hell did not deserve the past two All-NBA Defensive first teams in the past two seasons either. You can argue a few seasons where Duncan didn't belong in the defensive team either though. Kobe didn't get any MVP votes in '04-'05 too. Do you think intangibles such as leadership, team play, etc. mean much? I'm assuming not and that is why Shaq is above Duncan anyways and Shaq was a horrible teammate. I understand your point though and it was an excellent point although many people argue statistically that Kobe was always overrated in the clutch. Good post but I just wanted to address a few things, I hope you read it and address them.

He wasted in a sense that he didn't play with a post player. That's all I said, way to take the thread topic out of context though. How do you think LeBron-Yao would have done?

http://www.nba.com/media/mediacentralns/yao_lebron_200_040213.jpg Tmac was the ultimate loser that pretty much wasted most of Yao's career in Houston. Yao was better off never playing with Tmac. LeBron also never got to play with an elite offensive post player like Yao was. I mean who was LeBron's best post-player in Cleveland? Jamison? Big Z? LeBron was kind of wasted in Cleveland on that part. I always thought that LeBron needed a post-scorer and Jamison was never the answer to that question although Jamison in '10 was better than anything he ever had. Now lets replace Tmac in Houston with LeBron from '04-'09. The only reason why I stopped at '09 opposed to '10 is because that was pretty much the last season Yao and Tmac were playing for Houston. So from the '04-'05 season to the '08-'09 season. How do you think the duo of LeBron James and Yao Ming would have fared? I think they would have won the championship in '08-'09 for sure though. I'm not so positive about the other seasons.

Could you explain why Kobe is above Duncan and Dream? I just want some clarification.

The HOFers Wilt and Russell played with are actually pretty close. It's not as big of a margin as most people make it as.

Could you elaborate on this, specifically the bold? Duncan is known for supposedly having a dominant longevity. His prime was supposedly from his rookie season to like 2007. I know a lot of people claim that Duncan entered the league in his prime because he played 4 years in College and was extremely polished. I do think Duncan's '03 season is overrated though. I've heard some people say it was better than Hakeem's '94 season. Duncan's accolades and accomplishments are just as good, if not better than Kobe's too. Again I just want to know your answer, I don't even necessarily disagree. You can say I'm pretty much playing devils advocate.

Where do you think Kobe ranks in the all-time list? And specifically too, like 10, 9, 12, etc.