Jesse The Body Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 [----->Source] Air Force Drones Trail Civilian Auto Traffic in New Mexico The USAF is reportedly targeting and trailing civilian auto traffic on New Mexico's highways. Harmless or just another example of the blurred lines between the international and domestic application of U.S. military technology? http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/steve_clemons/assets_c/2012/07/drones%20june21%20p-thumb-600x341-92381.jpg They are most likely not "armed drones," but news has surfaced that the US Air Force is training drone pilots to trail civilian auto traffic on New Mexico's highways. In a 'lifestyles-of-video-game-war' piece by Mark Mazzetti that appears in The New York Times Magazine this Sunday, Mazzetti writes: When I visited the base [Holloman Air Force Base, N.M.] earlier this year with a small group of reporters, we were taken into a command post where a large flat-screen television was broadcasting a video feed from a drone flying overhead. It took a few seconds to figure out exactly what we were looking at. A white S.U.V. traveling along a highway adjacent to the base came into the cross hairs in the center of the screen and was tracked as it headed south along the desert road. When the S.U.V. drove out of the picture, the drone began following another car. "Wait, you guys practice tracking enemies by using civilian cars?" a reporter asked. One Air Force officer responded that this was only a training mission, and then the group was quickly hustled out of the room. Some may shrug and say that the undisclosed high-altitude tracking of US vehicles for training purposes is harmless, but the line between civilian privacy and an increasingly Orwellian capacity of the U.S. federal government to track its own citizens is blurred just a bit more by this practice. There are already serious concerns about U.S. military drones -- designed for warfare abroad -- being re-purposed for civilian purposes. The blog Loss of Privacy reports that unarmed drones at Grand Forks Air Force Base, N.D. are being used for civilian surveillance. And according to the same report former California Congresswoman and now Wilson Center for International Scholars President Jane Harman helped lead efforts to block expansion of drone hardware and related intelligence to the US domestic theater: In 2008 and 2010, Harman helped beat back efforts by Homeland Security officials to use imagery from military satellites to help domestic terrorism investigations. Congress blocked the proposal on grounds it would violate the Posse Comitatus Act, which bars the military from taking a police role on U.S. soil. The problem with an ever powerful national government with more and more tools to control and track its citizenry is that these powers, legal and technical, are often abused and used in ways not originally intended. Tools developed for the so-called war on terror are now used to spy on Americans -- and not enough, Dana Priest and Shane Harris excepted, are blowing the whistle on this creeping intelligence capacity that is now using Americans as unwitting guinea pigs before the video-trained pilots go track and destroy similar SUVs in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and elsewhere. This should not be happening. There should be controls on what the U.S. Air Force can target. The Department of Defense has no shortage of vehicles, enormous swaths of federal land for their own staff to traverse. If Air Force video pilots need to train by tracking something from the air, they should target soldiers in their ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I YOUR THREADS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse The Body Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I YOUR THREADS. Your quite welcome. Someone has to open your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Your quite welcome. Someone has to open your eyes *You mean 'You're quite welcome'. No offense, someone has to open yours too. Edited July 15, 2012 by Sħãlïq̵' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse The Body Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 *You mean 'You're quite welcome'. No offense, someone has to open yours too. Yeah thanks sherlock for trying to be "cool" on the internet ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Yeah thanks sherlock for trying to be "cool" on the internet ha.Why was he trying to look cool? He corrected your mistake. I'll never understand why people get so touchy when they [expletive] up a word and someone corrects them. Helps keep you from doing it again, and allows you to present your ideas in a competent manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse The Body Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why was he trying to look cool? He corrected your mistake. I'll never understand why people get so touchy when they [expletive] up a word and someone corrects them. Helps keep you from doing it again, and allows you to present your ideas in a competent manner. Yea very true, but I wasn't getting touchy just his our previous post on the threads I present he was trying to put me to for his little buddies on here. I'm not a fool I've been on here before so I know how these children can start acting up for really no reason, just so they can put down another person idea and to keep their ideas come being materialistic crushed. (Meaning they live materialistic lives so their ideas tend to strain from materialistic bulllshit and how the media tells them to live their lives and want to have so you can be cool or fit in this bullshit society.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Yea very true, but I wasn't getting touchy just his our previous post on the threads I present he was trying to put me to for his little buddies on here. I'm not a fool I've been on here before so I know how these children can start acting up for really no reason, just so they can put down another person idea and to keep their ideas come being materialistic crushed. (Meaning they live materialistic lives so their ideas tend to strain from materialistic bulllshit and how the media tells them to live their lives and want to have so you can be cool or fit in this bullshit society.)I see whatchu mean but.. relax, I only corrected you and it has NOTHING to do with any previous posts of mine. And I was NOT trying to 'put you too for my little buddies on here'. <_< Anyway, I wasn't trying to be "cool" on the internet. Like Kyle (iMan) said, I only corrected you to help prevent you from doing that again. Chill. Edited July 16, 2012 by Sħãlïq̵' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse The Body Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I see whatchu mean but.. relax, I only corrected you and it has NOTHING to do with any previous posts of mine. And I was NOT trying to 'put you too for my little buddies on here'. <_< Anyway, I wasn't trying to be "cool" on the internet. Like Kyle (iMan) said, I only corrected you to help prevent you from doing that again. Chill. Alright I respect that, good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I see whatchu mean but.. relax, I only corrected you and it has NOTHING to do with any previous posts of mine. And I was NOT trying to 'put you too for my little buddies on here'. <_< Anyway, I wasn't trying to be "cool" on the internet. Like Kyle (iMan) said, I only corrected you to help prevent you from doing that again. Chill. I think you meant "what you"... not trying to be cool or anything. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Jennefail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think you meant "what you"... not trying to be cool or anything. Just saying. 'Jennefail' indeed! I certainly didn't mean "what you". I typed: whatchu ..'cause I meant 'whatchu'. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 'Jennefail' indeed! I certainly didn't mean "what you". I typed: whatchu ..'cause I meant 'whatchu'. Just sayin'. You type like a dumb ass. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 You type like a dumb ass. Just sayin'.Dumbass is one word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 OTR has been acting like a bunch of 13 year olds lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Knock it off, Jenneral. Everytime I see you and Shaliq post in the same thread lately you're baiting him and he hasn't attacked you at all. Children like to do these things. That applies to everyone else End it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse The Body Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 OTR has been acting like a bunch of 13 year olds lately Indeed and this place it to great to this childish bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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