Celtics3420 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) Post who you think the MVP is for each team. I'll post MY LIST LATER Be sure to explain why you think they are that team's MVP. [b]Boston Celtics: Miami Heat: New Jersey Nets: New York Knicks: Orlando Magic: Philadelphia 76ers: Washington Wizards: Atlanta Hawks: Charlotte Bobcats: Chicago Bulls: Cleveland Cavaliers: Detroit Pistons: Indiana Pacers: Milwaukee Bucks: Charlotte Hornets: Toronto Raptors: Dallas Mavericks: Denver Nuggets: Houston Rockets: Minnesota Timberwolves: San Antonio Spurs: Utah Jazz: Memphis Grizzlies: Golden State Warriors: Los Angeles Clippers Los Angeles Lakers: Phoenix Suns: Portland Trailblazers: Sacramento Kings: Oklahoma City Thunder: [/b] Edited November 26, 2009 by Celtics3420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextBestThing Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Boston Celtics: Kevin GarnettMiami Heat: Dwyane WadeNew Jersey Nets: Devin HarrisNew York Knicks: David LeeOrlando Magic: Dwight HowardPhiladelphia 76ers: Andre IguodalaWashington Wizards: Caron ButlerAtlanta Hawks: Joe JohnsonCharlotte Bobcats: Stephen JacksonChicago Bulls: Derrick RoseCleveland Cavaliers: LeBron JamesDetroit Pistons: Richard HamiltonIndiana Pacers: Danny GrangerMilwaukee Bucks: Brandon JenningsNew Orleans Hornets: Chris PaulToronto Raptors: Chris BoshDallas Mavericks: Dirk NowitzkiDenver Nuggets: Carmelo AnthonyHouston Rockets: Trevor ArizaMinnesota Timberwolves: Al JeffersonSan Antonio Spurs: Tim DuncanUtah Jazz: Deron WilliamsMemphis Grizzlies: Rudy GayGolden State Warriors: Monta EllisLos Angeles Clippers: Baron DavisLos Angeles Lakers: DJ MbengaPhoenix Suns: Steve NashPortland Trailblazers: Brandon RoySacramento Kings: Kevin MartinOklahoma City Thunder: Kevin Durant You might want to change the "Charlotte Hornets" to "New Orleans." Also, if anyone says Amare for Suns' MVP, I will hunt you down and confiscate your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Caron Butler is FAR from the Wizards MVP this year, he's just been horrible from the field, and looks totally out of sync. There's no doubt it's been Arenas, say what you want about his attitude, but don't deny the fact that he's been our best player so far this year. Boston Celtics: Paul PierceMiami Heat: Dwyane WadeNew Jersey Nets: Devin HarrisNew York Knicks: David LeeOrlando Magic: Dwight HowardPhiladelphia 76ers: Andre IguodalaWashington Wizards: Gilbert ArenasAtlanta Hawks: Joe JohnsonCharlotte Bobcats: Gerald WallaceChicago Bulls: Derrick RoseCleveland Cavaliers: LeBron JamesDetroit Pistons: Ben GordonIndiana Pacers: Danny GrangerMilwaukee Bucks: Brandon JenningsNew Orleans Hornets: Chris PaulToronto Raptors: Chris BoshDallas Mavericks: Dirk NowitzkiDenver Nuggets: Carmelo AnthonyHouston Rockets: Luis ScolaMinnesota Timberwolves: Al JeffersonSan Antonio Spurs: Tim DuncanUtah Jazz: Deron WilliamsMemphis Grizzlies: Rudy GayGolden State Warriors: Monta EllisLos Angeles Clippers: Baron DavisLos Angeles Lakers: Kobe BryantPhoenix Suns: Steve NashPortland Trailblazers: Brandon RoySacramento Kings: Tyreke EvansOklahoma City Thunder: Kevin Durant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreusito Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Boston Celtics: Rajon RondoMiami Heat: Dwyane WadeNew Jersey Nets: Devin HarrisNew York Knicks: Ak HarringtonOrlando Magic: Dwight HowardPhiladelphia 76ers: Andre IguodalaWashington Wizards: Antawn JamisonAtlanta Hawks: Joe JohnsonCharlotte Bobcats: Gerald WallaceChicago Bulls: Derrick RoseCleveland Cavaliers: LeBron JamesDetroit Pistons: Ben GordonIndiana Pacers: Danny GrangerMilwaukee Bucks: Brandon JenningsCharlotte Hornets: Chris PaulToronto Raptors: Chris BoshDallas Mavericks: Dirk NowitszkiDenver Nuggets: Chauncey BillupsHouston Rockets: Luis ScolaMinnesota Timberwolves: Al JeffersonSan Antonio Spurs: Tim DuncanUtah Jazz: Deron WilliamsMemphis Grizzlies: Rudy GayGolden State Warriors: Monta EllisLos Angeles Clippers: Chris KamanLos Angeles Lakers: Kobe BryantPhoenix Suns: Steve NashPortland Trailblazers: Brandon RoySacramento Kings: Tyreke EvansOklahoma City Thunder: Kevin Durant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bosh Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Boston Celtics: Paul PierceMiami Heat: Dwyane WadeNew Jersey Nets: Brook LopezNew York Knicks: David LeeOrlando Magic: Dwight HowardPhiladelphia 76ers: Andre IguodalaWashington Wizards: Gilbert ArenasAtlanta Hawks: Joe JohnsonCharlotte Bobcats: Gerald WallaceChicago Bulls: Derrick RoseCleveland Cavaliers: LeBron JamesDetroit Pistons: Ben GordonIndiana Pacers: Danny GrangerMilwaukee Bucks: Brandon JenningsCharlotte Hornets: Chris PaulToronto Raptors: Chris BoshDallas Mavericks: Dirk NowitzkyDenver Nuggets: Carmelo AnthonyHouston Rockets: Trevor ArizaMinnesota Timberwolves: Al JeffersonSan Antonio Spurs: Tim DuncanUtah Jazz: Deron WilliamsMemphis Grizzlies: Rudy GayGolden State Warriors: Monta EllisLos Angeles Clippers: Chris KamanLos Angeles Lakers: Kobe Bryant/Andrew BynumPhoenix Suns: Steve NashPortland Trailblazers: Brandon RoySacramento Kings: Tyreke EvansOklahoma City Thunder: Kevin Durant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I guess people don't pay enough attention to the Hawks to realize that Joe Johnson isn't the MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bosh Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I guess people don't pay enough attention to the Hawks to realize that Joe Johnson isn't the MVP. If your going to state something like that how about you enlighten us and let us know who is??? Instead of just he isn't and we dont follow them enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 If your going to state something like that how about you enlighten us and let us know who is??? Instead of just he isn't and we dont follow them enough.Josh Smith actually has a higher efficiency rating than JJ. So, statistically, Josh Smith is playing better than Joe Johnson this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Boston Celtics: Paul PierceMiami Heat: Dwyane WadeNew Jersey Nets: Devin HarrisNew York Knicks: David LeeOrlando Magic: Dwight HowardPhiladelphia 76ers: Andre IguodalaWashington Wizards: Antawn JamisonAtlanta Hawks: Joe JohnsonCharlotte Bobcats: Gerald WallaceChicago Bulls: Derrick RoseCleveland Cavaliers: LeBron JamesDetroit Pistons: Ben GordonIndiana Pacers: Danny GrangerMilwaukee Bucks: Brandon JenningsNew Orleans Hornets: Chris PaulToronto Raptors: Chris BoshDallas Mavericks: Dirk NowitzkiDenver Nuggets: Carmelo AnthonyHouston Rockets: Trevor ArizaMinnesota Timberwolves: Al JeffersonSan Antonio Spurs: Tim DuncanUtah Jazz: Deron WilliamsMemphis Grizzlies: Rudy GayGolden State Warriors: Monta EllisLos Angeles Clippers: Chris KamanLos Angeles Lakers: Kobe BryantPhoenix Suns: Steve NashPortland Trailblazers: Brandon RoySacramento Kings: Kevin MartinOklahoma City Thunder: Kevin Durant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 How is Antawn Jamison the MVP of the Wizards, yet he's only played 3 games thus far? Makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasX Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Josh Smith actually has a higher efficiency rating than JJ. So, statistically, Josh Smith is playing better than Joe Johnson this year.I was going to post the same thing KB did, but thanks Poe for the info, positived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextBestThing Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Josh Smith is a very efficient player, but Johnson is too good at scoring (especially going 1-on-1) and setting up teammates to be second most valuable. It's easy to be efficient at what you do when what you do is limited. Arenas' attitude had nothing to do with my leaving him off the top spot. It's the fact that he shoots less than 40% from the field, but still insists on being the first option. Butler is a solid scorer and a strong defender. And, let's face it, he's less of a distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Arenas' attitude had nothing to do with my leaving him off the top spot. It's the fact that he shoots less than 40% from the field, but still insists on being the first option. Butler is a solid scorer and a strong defender. And, let's face it, he's less of a distraction.You just said in your first sentence that Arenas' attitude has nothing to do with him not being the MVP, yet you mention Butler being less of a distraction? Arenas also scores over 24ppg, and makes plays. When Butler gets the ball, he totally stops the offense, and shoots horrid jumpers. It may not show up in the boxscores, but his shooting is ugly. Arenas does more than Caron does in the offense. And oh yeah, Arenas hasn't missed a game this year, Butler has already missed 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextBestThing Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 You just said in your first sentence that Arenas' attitude has nothing to do with him not being the MVP, yet you mention Butler being less of a distraction? Arenas also scores over 24ppg, and makes plays. When Butler gets the ball, he totally stops the offense, and shoots horrid jumpers. It may not show up in the boxscores, but his shooting is ugly. Arenas does more than Caron does in the offense. And oh yeah, Arenas hasn't missed a game this year, Butler has already missed 2. Caron rebounds, defends, and runs the floor. He has his fingerprints all over the game. Gilbert is interested in scoring. He doesn't mind wild shots. He only passes the ball when there's no other choice. And you're arguing for Gilbert Arenas. It might be wise to leave durability out of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Caron rebounds, defends, and runs the floor. He has his fingerprints all over the game. Gilbert is interested in scoring. He doesn't mind wild shots. He only passes the ball when there's no other choice. And you're arguing for Gilbert Arenas. It might be wise to leave durability out of the equation.You do realize this is the MVP for this season only right? Why in the world would I leave Gil's durability of this argument when those two games Caron missed happened to be important games? You don't watch many Wizards games do you? Take it from the guy who has seen every game this season, Gil passes the ball more than you think. Don't make ignorant statements such as Gil doesn't pass, it's completely untrue. How else do you think Haywood gets his points? You think he creates shots for himself? Caron is absolutely horrible on defense this year, doesn't pass at all in the offense, doesn't even know what to do half the time down the floor, and is shooting very poorly. I'm sorry but I'd take Gil's 24+ppg and under 40% shooting over Caron's abysmal play this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextBestThing Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Now, I never said that Gilbert didn't pass. He does a fair job of avoiding turnovers, especially considering how often he has the ball. All I said was that he doesn't pass to push an offense. He passes when his other angles are cut. And yes, that does result in points for role players, because they often are ignored by the defense. But it also limits how effective his team can possibly be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Now, I never said that Gilbert didn't pass. He does a fair job of avoiding turnovers, especially considering how often he has the ball. All I said was that he doesn't pass to push an offense. He passes when his other angles are cut. And yes, that does result in points for role players, because they often are ignored by the defense. But it also limits how effective his team can possibly be.Ok, first off, Gil does a terrible job avoiding turnovers, sadly. He's the one who keeps the ball moving, and he's the one igniting the offense on fastbreaks. But since I can't prove it to you with facts, let me ask you something...Take out Gil from the offense, how well do you think the Wizards would be? Now take off Butler from the offense, how well would the Wizards be? Butler is replaceable, all Flip Saunders has to do is put in Mike Miller at the SF spot (or hell, put in Dominic McGuire for Christ Sake, the kid can play), and move Nick Young into the starting spot (watch game tape from our last game, he dropped 20 points). Taking out Gil and replacing him with a guy like Earl will not get the job done, Earl is meant for the sixth man role. Plain and simple, no one can replace Gil's 25ppg. Jamison certainly cannot average 40ppg.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextBestThing Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Would you count forced shots as turnover? Officially they aren't, but would you say they have the same effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Would you count forced shots as turnover? Officially they aren't, but would you say they have the same effect?No forced shots are not turnovers. But what does that have to do with this discussion? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Antawn Jamison is the MVP Wizards, regardless of only playing a few games. They play better ball with him in the lineup it seems, and he is the leader. Gilbert, regardless of how much he is scoring, is playing beyond inefficiently. That is why I chose Antawn over Gilbert, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Antawn Jamison is the MVP Wizards, regardless of only playing a few games. They play better ball with him in the lineup it seems, and he is the leader. Gilbert, regardless of how much he is scoring, is playing beyond inefficiently. That is why I chose Antawn over Gilbert, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that.Please tell me how playing 30% of the season warrants Jamison to be considered the MVP of the Wizards... I think you're overlooking the fact that this is most VALUABLE player award and not the most efficient player award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Please tell me how playing 30% of the season warrants Jamison to be considered the MVP of the Wizards... I think you're overlooking the fact that this is most VALUABLE player award and not the most efficient player award.He is the most valuable to the team... he is the leader on the floor and is clearly playing the best basketball on the team. We would be a worse team without Antawn than we would without Gilbert. Plus the season just started and I don't see Antawn missing anymore time, so while he has not played as many games as Gilbert, it's not like the difference in games played right now is that drastic with the season not being that progressed yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Please tell me how playing 30% of the season warrants Jamison to be considered the MVP of the Wizards... I think you're overlooking the fact that this is most VALUABLE player award and not the most efficient player award.You're being a hypocrite though. You said Devin Harris is the MVP of the Nets but he's only played 5 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 You're being a hypocrite though. You said Devin Harris is the MVP of the Nets but he's only played 5 games.+1 for proving my point. Antawn has played enough to be considered the most valuable player on the Wizards roster this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 He is the most valuable to the team... he is the leader on the floor and is clearly playing the best basketball on the team. We would be a worse team without Antawn than we would without Gilbert. Plus the season just started and I don't see Antawn missing anymore time, so while he has not played as many games as Gilbert, it's not like the difference in games played right now is that drastic with the season not being that progressed yet.You're not understanding the fact that this is through the course of 13 games....I could careless what Jamison managed to do in 4 games, that is not enough to give him the title of the MVP of the Wizards. You're being a hypocrite though. You said Devin Harris is the MVP of the Nets but he's only played 5 games.lol I'll admit my mistakes...I didn't really think when I put down Devin Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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