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How does Iverson fit into this criteria? Miles and Marbury I can understand, they are...well, losers for lack of a better term. But Iverson, man, he carried that Philly team SO MANY times man...that was without a great big man and you know how many injuries and hard hits that guy took? He was FEARLESS taking it to the rim. If anyone has heart dude it's Iverson, to say that means you never watched the games. And Iverson is/was a team player...he's just gotten put into some tough situations the past few years, but when he was in Philly man it was so different so maybe you didn't watch basketball then IDK.

Sergio Garcia - Well, IDK if this counts, but he acknowledged me on the driving range when I said "Lets go Serg!" as he was leaving and he's like "Thanks man!" Then I followed his group on the course, and after one hole I was like "great birdie!" and he laughed, remembering me, and he's like "thank you bro," and gave me a 'fist bump.' He was real chill, and the most friendly PGA Tour golfer that was at the entire tournament. idk i think that's pretty much it... but what i want to know is were the athletes/celebrities cool or reluctant to meet/talk to you? No one has mentioned that part.

LOL. When someone comes on here and says Jordan is overratetd, and Kobe is better than him, you realize a few things; A. The person doesn't know basketball. Plain and Simple, they can't play it, they have no aspect what-so-ever on how the game is played. B. The person has a love-fest for Kobe. Ok, I don't hate Kobe, but lets be honest here, is an awesome and GREAT player? Absoulutely, but not to try to offend anyone personally, some people really are on his dick on this forum, more so than anywhere I've ever seen. C. The only part of the game that Kobe Bryant is better at than Michael Jordan is shooting, specifically the mid-range game. You can certainly argue Kobe is the best mid-range jump shooter the game has ever seen. D. Michael Jordan was better in every other aspect: Defense, Offense, and making his teammates better. Oh, and not to mention he has SIX Championships, and SIX Championship MVP's. Kobe has 4 Championships, 3 with one of the best Centers of all time, when that Center was in his prime. E. Some of the "Jordan is overrated" crew may say I'm just a Jordan fan, or "I'm on his dick." Actually, no, I hated him growing up because he always killed my Knicks. But there becomes a time you put bias aside and realize the game's greatest player. Case closed, it's that simple.

rest is peace an absolute beast in his prime, really fun player to watch...

He's certainly better. Lyrically, flow, etc. 50's beats are always crazy cuz he can pay for top production and the dude never does a thing on 'em!!!

yeah I'll get it. Last years game, NCAA 09, was very good - quite better than Madden 09. Can't wait to see the additions this year. Anyone know if you'll be able to download the rosters like last year?

Wayne isn't amazing. But he's a lot, a lot better than 50, or a lot of rappers (Soulja Boy, Hurricane Chris, etc.) out there right now. At least Wayne can still spit - sometimes.

I agree. Wayne can be a beast on the mic in some of his songs, especially older mixtapes. 50 Cent has been garbage...basically since get rich or die tryin'...I actually purchased Curtis and that CD was awful...

It's far more difficult to improve your OFFENSE. Considering how good of athletes most of the NBA players are, defense is about 95% heart, dedication, and hustle. The other 5% is technique. A lot of guys, ex. Ben Wallace (as mentioned by another poster), is limited offensively, making offense much harder to improve upon. Most guys that are great scorers that play no defense, a guy like Marbury, or Eddy Curry just simply have no heart or dedication - they prefer their stat line.

nah charles is very talented but he kind of rushes stuff some times so idk it's not that great. he has plenty of great songs though.

yeah your right, his music doesn't qualify for any genre. Maybe garbage if you consider it a genre.

Dude is wack hopefully he and rappers like him quit so we can restore hip-hop back to where it needs to be!!!

he certainly has potential and could be the outsider shooter we so desperately lack. man if some of these guys can elevate their game this season, Knicks could be annoying 7th or 8th seed!

probably sign and trade nate or just let him walk...

Like Cambyland did, you need to seperate it into two different categories. Post defender - Dwight Howard Perimeter defender - Shane Battier

Lol what charles does his thing on most songs a few of his mixtapes were wack tho Ace Hood is trash. yea i agree wit this ash rosh's album was really nice a little different from what were used to in the rap game but i was feelin it he's gonna do big things.

it's still stupid i dont give a [expletive] what their explanation is

getting bj's!!!

This was boss. Great thread. Nine Thumbs Up.

ok so you didn't meet them you saw them drive out of MSG in their car? Nice story.

Yeah, too bad he's like 40.

Gimmie Artest all day. Very good defender, and a hard-nosed player - I love his personality, can light a fire under his team. Not too bad of a scorer, either. Jefferson may be a better and flashier offensive player but I'd take Artest if I'm trying to build a winning franchise.

Zach's a good player and gets way too much heat on this forum. Well, if your not Kobe you might as well forget it on this site, you'll be hated. He's not a good defender and certainly has some questionable shot choices - but from your better scores in the NBA, how many people don't have these characteristics?

Typically, when a team loses a game, there are flaws as to why they lost. Glad you pointed them out.

C'mon Yanks 2 on 0 outs in the 9th down by 4 though haha