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lolwut http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/08/giants_place_terrell_thomas_sh.html

do you guys who drink a lot of milk drink whole milk? i only drink 1% lol for like the past 7 years

We can blame Clinton for the housing crisis, but we can't blame Bush for any of our current economic problems (post 2008). http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22836886.jpg

I drink some diet soda, but as far as regular soda, I haven't had one in six or seven years. maybe 3-4 (cans) diet sodas a week.

nothing like working all labor day weekend.

Nah. People overlook his accomplishments a lot. He lost four grand slam finals. If he won two of them, we'd all look at him differently. Unfortunately, he had to go up against the greatest of all time (Fed) in all four. Coming from a tennis family, I grew up around the game and Andy Roddick was always one of my favorite players. He got old fast, injuries were a major part.

First of all, Obama has a wide range appeal just because of his race and charisma as a candidate that's different. Plus, he is the actual President, as oppose to Mitt Romney, who is a prominent politician, but doesn't have near the popularity or notoriety Worldwide like Barack Obama has.

Well, it's been a two party system forever. No one embraces a third party candidate in this country, although it's most likely what we need. I agree with virtually everything Obama has and is campaigning on, so I really have no problem voting for him. He's been far from perfect, but there's plenty he had campaigned on in 2008 that he has tried, or has gotten thru in some form as President.

That's like saying my Dad wants me to be the next Michael Jordan.

yes

how do you plan on doing that lolz

Nope. Have a job. My family and I do very well for ourselves, thankfully.

No one is blaming Bush for Obama's problems anymore. I didn't blame Bush for Obama's problems. He inherited major problems, and a deficit. Obama added to the deficit...he didn't really have a choice with what he inherited. He had to spend money on the two wars. He had to spend the money to improve the economy. And thankfully, the economy has certainly improved since 2008. Certainly not enough as all Americans would like to see, absolutely, but it's gotten better. So, no, no one is continually blaming Bush at this point for our deficit. Obama has added to the deficit. We understand that. But with his circumstances, I don't see that as a major problem. He HAD to spend money to save jobs and create new ones. If he isn't investing in education, infrastructure, etc. where will new jobs come from? How will the unemployment rate go down? You seem to like to point that out continually as well.

It's not the deficit that Obama inherited that is the key. It's the economic state On the road to depression = must spend money to help us get out of the hole. spend money to invest in jobs = unemployment lowers don't you get that? of course obama was going to pump money into the economy, that's the idea of the stimulus you [expletive]ing idiot. if all you have is that obama contributed to more debt than you're entire prospective is wack as [expletive] man. sorry. i can't put it any other way.

Already conceded that. Numbers don't lie. Here's a good recap of the debt debate...it's pretty [expletive]ing stupid judging on the economic state of our country. "Overall, I’d argue that the “who increased the debt more?” debate is rather silly. The bottom line is that Bush and Obama have continued an American tradition that’s been the norm my entire lifetime: spending without regard to revenues. Bush wanted to cut taxes while funding two wars and a domestic legacy. Obama wanted to create an even bigger domestic legacy–a major move towards universal healthcare coverage–while ramping up a war and stimulating the economy. The key difference is that Obama’s preference was to also raise taxes–albeit only on top earners–to help pay for it; Congressional Republicans blocked that effort." http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/has-national-debt-increased-more-under-obama-than-bush/

What do you expect to happen? Inherited two wars and an economy headed for a depression. Are you all that delusional?

Puts us in debt, Liberal spending habits...LMFAO What was Clinton then? A far-right conservative because we had a surplus? non-sense.

My entire point is the debt debate is retarded. Bush took us from a surplus to a deficit, so to act like the only person who has spent money is Obama is pure ignorance. And, like I said, he's going to spend money in a depressed economy like the one he 2008. That's part of a liberal's theory when it comes to the economy. By investing in jobs, infrastructure, etc. Obama hoped to 'stimulate' the economy, hence the stimulus plan. So of course there's going to be money spent and debt piled up. I'm not blaming Bush for our deficit at this point. Obama has absolutely contributed to that, I understand that. But, that's what was pretty obvious was going to happen when he was elected. I was never debating that. Lol. I can't continue to argue about this. It's the same thing every time.

Of course it was landmark legislation. 34 million Americans will be able to get health care coverage with Obamacare. Sounds like progressive, landmark legislation to me!

Isn't the national unemployment rate lower than what it is in Christie's conservative led state? The entire debt debate is completely comical. George W. Bush, who was a Republican just to inform you, took us from a surplus to record deficits. So, let's not start that debate. Plus, with the stimulus bill and auto bailout, of course Obama was going to spend money to try to avoid a depression. The economy, despite your delusional mind may want to believe, is absolutely better in 2012 than it was in 2008. It's no where near where I would classify it as 'good.' There are still many families out there struggling, undoubtedly. But no President is going to be able to just snap his fingers and get our economy booming and lower unemployment to 5%. First off, we are a free market economy...the President only has limited influence on the economy. This isn't a communist or socialist state (even though you think Obama is, LOL)...many of our economic problems are not solvable by just who we elect. I don't even understand that Paul Ryan quote...

[expletive]. i was just about to kick a GW FG. I was on the [expletive]ing 7 yard line when I got disconnected. Did not receive a win. WACK AS [expletive]

Chris Christie is nothing but tough talk. He's a fraud. Believe me, I lived in New Jersey for 20 years. My entire life. Just moved three months ago to NC. He's done nothing to strengthen the state. Simply google what Obama has accomplished in office, some you may not care for, or any of it. But Obama HAS done a lot so far in office, many of which was campaigned upon. The Republicans will do anything to discredit Obama and set him up to fail. The facts are Obama has signed landmark Health Care legislation, he helped bring justice to those who were effected by 9/11 (and to all Americans) with the killing of Osama Bin Laden, he ended (or withdrew troops from) the war in Iraq, Prevented a Great Depression with the stimulus. Those are some of his major achievements thus far. 4 more years can bring upon more progressive legislation. Whether you agree or not, it's not really up for debate as far as Obama has 'done nothing.' Here's a little tidbid on your boy Chris Christie...

chris christie is laughable. he brought upon zero change in new jersey. clown city

Just got it. About to play in a half hour or so. Will let ya'll know.

Predict each team's W-L record and their standings...similar to what we do for the NBA each year. NFC East: 1. Giants 10-6 2. Eagles 10-6 3. Cowboys 9-7 4. Redskins 7-9 NFC North: 1. Packers 12-4 2. Bears 11-5 3. Lions 8-8 4. Vikings 5-11 NFC South: 1. Saints 10-6 2. Falcons 9-7 3. Panthers 9-7 4. Buccaneers 5-11 NFC West: 1. 49ers 13-3 2. Rams 9-7 3. Seahawks 7-9 4. Cardinals 2-14 AFC East: 1. Patriots 10-6 2. Bills 9-7 3. Jets 9-7 4. Dolphins 5-11 AFC North: 1. Steelers 10-6 2. Bengals 10-6 3. Ravens 9-7 4. Browns 4-12 AFC South: 1. Texans 10-6 2. Titans 8-8 3. Colts 7-9 4. Jaguars 4-12 AFC West: 1. Broncos 9-7 2. Chargers 9-7 3. Chiefs 8-8 4. Raiders 7-9