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Jordan had decent post moves in college and is pretty athletic. Tyson will teach him how to block shots. He could see some backup C minutes, with Jeffries backing up Amar'e and Harrellson getting garbage minutes.

 

Speaking of Harrellson, he's a pure hustle guy playing way over his head. Was enormous for Kentucky last year when Kanter was nixed, but athleticism is limited. He'll give 100% on the boards and on D, and he's strong/tough, so there's always room for that. Was a ridiculous fan favorite at Kentucky, it was kind of outrageous. They had a school-wide Jorts day, haha.

 

Bibby is just a backup shooter, he'll take Rautins' minutes and perform better with them. Shumpert insurance, too. Nothing lost on a min contract.

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@NYPost_Berman Marc Berman

Told #Knicks and Hawks working on 3-team deal for Jamal Crawford with Douglas involved in one scenario

 

@alanhahn Alan Hahn

Deal for Crawford, whom D'Antoni loved before Nov. 08 trade, would include team with cap space to help facilitate deal.

 

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Source confirms earlier report that Knicks working on a three-way trade to acquire Jamal Crawford

 

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Source says Crawford 3-team sign-and-trade to Knicks has better than 50-50 chance. nypost.com/p/blogs/knicks…

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Tyson Chandler and Mike Bibby practiced for the first time yesterday with the Knicks, but interim general manager Glen Grunwald’s work wasn’t done.

 

He was holed up in his Westchester office, working like a machine, chasing ex-Knick Jamal Crawford and Mavericks’ unheralded point guard J.J. Barea, according to NBA sources.

 

Crawford’s agent, Andy Miller, has been trying desperately for the past 48 hours to broker a three-team sign-and-trade deal between the Knicks, Hawks and another club under the salary cap to find a creative way to pay Crawford his market value, sources told The Post. The Warriors are one team Miller has tried to engage.

 

The Knicks initially mulled dangling starting point guard Toney Douglas, an Atlanta native, in a potential deal, but they have since reconsidered, slowing progress.

 

After the magic Grunwald pulled off in the Chandler heist, anything’s possible now for the GM who still has “interim” in his title but may have taken a step in having it removed.

 

The Knicks, looking to further bolster their backcourt, already have offered both Crawford and Barea their $2.5 million mini-exception given to clubs near the salary cap. The club lost its full $5 million midlevel exception by dipping under the cap to execute the Chandler extravaganza.

 

The Knicks undermined a potential Crawford trade by signing their rookies, Iman Shumpert and Josh Harrellson, yesterday, creating two more pawns who can’t be dealt.

 

Billy Walker, Landry Fields, center Jerome Jordan and a 2011 second-round pick are the Knicks’ only trading chips. Jordan flew in from Slovenia yesterday and is close to signing, and the Knicks prefer not to deal Fields, either.

 

The Knicks don’t even have the cash to throw into a Crawford trade because they gave the Wizards $3 million to take on Ronny Turiaf, according to a source. The new CBA states a team can only use a combined $3 million in a year for trades. Call it the James Dolan Rule.

 

“Mike [coach D’Antoni] loves Jamal and wants him here, but he’s not willing to give up his starting point guard,’’ said one person familiar with the Knicks’ thinking.

 

The Knicks, if they wait long enough, feel they have a better crack at Barea accepting the $2.5 million offer in this suppressed market created by the new CBA. The Knicks can extend a potential pact by two years, but Barea would be wise to sign a one-year deal, then ink a long-term deal next summer when the Knicks have their full $5 million midlevel exception.

 

Barea and Crawford each have interest in New York, but rejected the Knicks’ offers. They could become desperate, however. Barea was a teammate of Chandler’s in Dallas and an unsung hero during the Finals. Crawford has suitors in the Pacers and Nets.

 

Meanwhile, the Knicks are also monitoring free agent small forward Shawne Williams, as they could use a 3-point shooter off the bench. Williams, a Knicks revelation last season, has been offered the $2.5 million exception but has better offers. The Knicks also are still interested in small forward Anthony Parker for that exception.

 

Williams had a big season from 3-point range a year ago. Knicks brass loved his toughness and his friendship with Amar’e Stoudemire helps, as they share the same agent, Happy Walters. Williams is no longer being treated as a reclamation project.

 

If the Knicks don’t land anyone to be their starting point guard, they still have 2012, when they can targets free-agents Steve Nash, Jameer Nelson and Raymond Felton — who could all be available for the $5 million midlevel exception in a down market — but not Chris Paul.

 

For now, Douglas, who wore a starting white jersey yesterday, feels he can handle the promotion fine, especially with a veteran backup in Bibby on the roster.

 

“He’s my teammate,’’ Douglas said. “He’s been in the league 13, 14 years. We can all learn different things from different people.’’

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Good article ^ Nice to see this new GM working hard.

 

Could all backfire on him if the Tyson signing doesn't work out, and we end up desperately needing a CP3 type of player to compete for a Champioship.

 

Just saying...

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Should S&T for him screw TD

Let's not forget Jamal doesn't play defense. Knicks want to improve defense they need to be committed to good defensive players like TD23, Fields, Shumpert.

 

Knicks offense will be fine - let's also not forget that STAT and Melo do not need to be on the floor at the same time all the time. People say when they are resting, Knicks have no offense. That's pretty much true. But If I'm the coach, it's rare they'd both rest at the same time. As a matter of fact, I'd split them up most of them. (I think they play better when one of them is on the floor and the other isn't lol)

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Toney Douglas is a good defender? Do you not remember Rondo raping him in the first round? Douglas is as a capable a defender as iverson was.

He was playing with a torn labrum; didn't want any contact so shied away. Supposedly that injury is brutal, one of my friends had it when he got hurt in HS football. He was trying to gut it out...do believe it even required off-season surgery and tough rehab proces..

 

Douglas is a good defender, c'mon now. He's very active...but you could say He takes too many chances though.

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Nah we don't have our MLE because we went into the offseason below cap, IIRC. We still have the mini exception of 2.5M, idk.

 

I'd go hard after Mo Evans.

and yeah the mini exception is 2.5/2 yrs so 5 mil

 

2yrr/5mil isn't bad. that's all SW3 was worth anyway.

 

Knicks definitely should get DeShawn Stevenson. Perfect Fit.

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