Owner Real Deal Posted February 16, 2012 Owner Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 ESPN just showed that Jeremy Lin has the most turnovers, in a player's first six starts, in NBA history (36). John Wall had 30. If I recall correctly, Glen Robinson was on that list, second, with 35. Scott Skiles was also on the list. Guess there's always something wrong with playing so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Expected from someone who hasnt had the ball in his hands this much before. With more experience he'll obviously turn it down on turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yeah, I've noticed that too, he has a TON of turnovers during all of his games. But this is a new thing for him, he's still adjusting to the major increased role. He'll start turning the ball over less and less as he plays more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 To be expected. Before the Nets game a week and a half ago he had played over 20min 3x in his career, and never over 20min. He has now played over 35min 6 games in a row, and over 40 in 2. Not only is he playing major minutes, but he has the ball in his hands all the time, and with Melo and Amare out he's essentially been the guy teams have been gameplanning for on the Knicks. This drastic change in role is something I've never quite seen happen, at least not this quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballorama Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 That is the only explanation.. Lol. Anyways, I think this was pretty expectant. Lin is playing 40+ minutes in those 6 games, plus he has the ball majority of the time as well as his little experience. Not to be overlooked, but I'm sure he'll be good once the season progresses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 To be expected. Before the Nets game a week and a half ago he had played over 20min 3x in his career, and never over 20min. He has now played over 35min 6 games in a row, and over 40 in 2. Not only is he playing major minutes, but he has the ball in his hands all the time, and with Melo and Amare out he's essentially been the guy teams have been gameplanning for on the Knicks. This drastic change in role is something I've never quite seen happen, at least not this quickly.wut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 wut.Obv meant 30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Actually was going for 25min, but 30 works too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Expected from someone who hasnt had the ball in his hands this much before. With more experience he'll obviously turn it down on turnovers.This. To be expected. Before the Nets game a week and a half ago he had played over 20min 3x in his career, and never over 20min. He has now played over 35min 6 games in a row, and over 40 in 2. Not only is he playing major minutes, but he has the ball in his hands all the time, and with Melo and Amare out he's essentially been the guy teams have been gameplanning for on the Knicks. This drastic change in role is something I've never quite seen happen, at least not this quickly.And especially this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It's crazy how overlooked this stat is. But at the end of the day the team is winning and he's still filling up the stat sheet in other ways. The more experienced he gets in the offense and better he'll get. What I've noticed is that he picks his dribble up a lot when he is doubled, the more reps he gets the quicker he'll become with his decision making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloo Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 it's a thing that all Knicks fans have noticed... but all his other stats have overshadowed his TOs, which is the reason why.. things get better with age though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It's crazy how overlooked this stat is. Agreed. Turnovers are what makes what Chris Paul does on a yearly basis so amazing and different from other high-volume PG's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 ESPN just showed that Jeremy Lin has the most turnovers, in a player's first six starts, in NBA history (36). John Wall had 30. If I recall correctly, Glen Robinson was on that list, second, with 35. Scott Skiles was also on the list. Guess there's always something wrong with playing so good. http://i41.tinypic.com/1zpp3l1.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) That could be the stupidest graphic I've ever seen on this site, sorry... First of all, anyone who compares him to Kobe Bryant is an idiot. And they play two totally different positions and styles of play... Edited February 19, 2012 by JYD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) ...First of all, anyone who compares him to Kobe Bryant is an idiot. And they play two totally different positions and styles of play...I posted it because of this ridiculous comparison here -- http://i40.tinypic.com/2rei16v.png A friend of mine recently said: "Anyone who is trying to compare (Bryant's and Lin's) scoring numbers will be dismissive with the turnovers because, quite frankly, they don't understand that: Kobe was 17-18 years old, Kobe had no college experience, KB was playing on a team w/ a 26-PPG Shaq, with 4 others in double-figure scoring: Jones, Van Exel, Campbell and Ceballos, and Bryant was asked by Del Harris to take around 5-6 shots a night his rookie year, which he did. " ^ Couldn't agree more. Edited February 19, 2012 by Šhãłïq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Kobe is/was/will always be a far more talented athlete and basketball player. I don't understand why there is a graphic comparing them in any sort of way? That's what makes what you even post laughable. It's like you're trying to create some type of comparison based off nothing. Let me put up Melo's first seven starts compared to Jordan...Or LeBron vs. Kobe first seven starts? Who gives a [expletive] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Kobe is/was/will always be a far more talented athlete and basketball player. I don't understand why there is a graphic comparing them in any sort of way? (...)That's exactly my point, damned! Everyone on ESPN, NBA.com e t.c. is comparing Lin with Bryant, and like you said, that's laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 I haven't seen a single Kobe/Lin comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 I haven't seen a single Kobe/Lin comparison yea except from shaliq lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) I haven't seen a single Kobe/Lin comparison yea except from shaliq lmfao Oh really?! So now, all of a sudden, Šhãłïq runs the media? During the Knicks-Lakers game in MSG (ESPN or TNT) -- a lame comparison of their scoring first 6 starts, like this one: http://i40.tinypic.com/2rei16v.pnghttp://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/02/16/021612-news-linfo-graphic/ Here's one other comparison: http://i41.tinypic.com/34oammp.pngSource And yet another one: http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzjizioUrc1r7j2jlo1_400.jpg And here's another comparison, not between Braynt and Lin, but oh well: http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lziioyQyxI1rperc6o1_500.jpg Edited February 19, 2012 by Šhãłïq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) random websites don't really constitute "the media". i have yet to see TNT or ESPN do a big HEY LOOK KOBE VS LIN type of thing. the ones from espn(last two) that you posted compare Lin to a NUMBER of NBA stars, and one of them doesn't even include Kobe. doesn't the fact that they compared him to Freeman Williams in that last graphic show that they are kinda picking on him? Edited February 19, 2012 by Lkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 They aren't even comparing Kobe and Lin they are just putting Lin's numbers beside the NBA greats to see how they stack so far, obviously the greats are better, there is no reason to prove that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (...) i have yet to see TNT or ESPN do a big HEY LOOK KOBE VS LIN type of thing. (...)I deleted the screenshot I had taken. <_< Otherwise I would've posted it. You not having seen something doesn't mean it didn't happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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