EastCoastNiner

I like the avatar. Wentworth Miller is the man!

Sort of like how Ryan Howard owes his to "Citizens Bank"? . I'm kidding...sort of. http://www.otrbasketball.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif . I'm glad that the Boston Red Sox did not go after Matt Holliday last year. I really hope the Boston Red Sox get Adam Dunn is two seasons.

How is it a dumb statement? I can name 100+ players that deserve more money than Tori Hunter in the MLB, NBA, NFL, and NHL, so it's not really a dumb statement at all. And, don't try and play it off like, "But he didn't criticize other players that should be on the list" because that is irrelevant, and he is correct.

No, I'm saying people vastly over-rate what Michael Jordan has done, and that people vastly under-rated Scottie Pippen. I hate the Lakers, but I still think that Kobe Bryant is more skilled than Michael Jordan, especially on the offensive side of the ball, and even on the defensive side of the ball.

Scottie Pippen had a better playoff record, and as I said, Scottie Pippen only had one losing season without Michael Jordan, and Michael Jordan had 5 losing seasons, and missed the playoffs twice.

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No. I never said he wasn't great, but he needed his team-mates just as much as they needed him. 1-9 playoff record without Scottie Pippen is very telling.

No, but you look like a raccoon.

Where did my picture go?

Thank you for an actual response instead of, "This thread is dumb" comments because they can't back anything up. I understand that his playoff numbers were excellent, but that was with Scottie Pippen, and a 1-9 playoff record without Scottie Pippen really stands out to me. I know that no one player is going to win a Championship, but I think that record speaks a lo for itself, and the fact that the Chicago Bulls only lost two more games the year after Michael Jordan first retired. If they only lost two more games the following season, I really don't see how people can say that it was only Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, when if face, Horrace Grant and Dennis Rodman were extremely important parts of the team.

Well, as much as I think it shouldn't play a role in getting inducted into the "Hall Of Fame", I think his death may help him. He only had three "Pro-Bowl" appearances, but he did win a MVP that he should have been the sole winner of, but unfortunately he had to share it. He never won a Super Bowl which hurts as well. I think my heart says yes, but my mind says, "I don't know".

As I said before, the Pistons and Lakers were aging, and the Jazz were not as good as you guys think. Karl Malone and John Stockten are where it starts and ends. You can bring up JH, GO, and others, but they were not that great.

I really can't believe that you are trying to compare the over-all competition of the late 1980's and 1990's to the competition of today. - Aging Pistons - Aging Lakers - Expansion teams galore The only real good team Michael Jordan ever beat in the playoffs was the New York Knicks. The Utah Jazz were not as good as you'd like to think.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! MJ had MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh weaker competition!

I've made my statements, and you have not answered a single one of the questions. You addressed scoring ability with stats, which is definitely a big component of determining who is a better scorer, but that is where it ended with you. You threw out stats, and I threw out reasons, which you have yet to answer. Here, I'll make it easy since you're a lazy [expletive]: If Michael Jordan was so great, then how come when he retired, the Chicago Bulls only lost two more games the following season? BTW, Michael Jordan's high scoring came when the NBA was getting many expansion teams.

Nope, he hasn't been a bust, but Michael Beasley hasn't done [expletive].

Typical response from you. Please, respond to my original post. It's obvious that YOU can't, and you're going to wait until someone else provides reasons.

Just answer my questions, and it will be alright. You just threw a lists of stats together, that's all. You didn't answer any one of my points, and I know you're leaving because you have no way of responding, and you're going to wait until Brandon, Mason, or someone else comes in here to back you up, and the you'll say, "OMG, that is what I was saying"

I did respond you your list of stats. You still haven't answered any of my points. I know that you're in a corner that you can't get out of, so you'll keep saying that you responded and I didn't, even though I responded to your list, and you still haven't answered anything. .

Ughhhh, duuhhhhhh. You never responded to any of that. .

You didn't answer ANY of the points besides providing stats from different ERA's where Michael Jordan was a #1 option his entire career. . You didn't respond to anything I said.

You have yet to answer any of the points that I made in my first post.

Yes, because stats from two different era's prove that one player is better. . Please, respond to my first posts, and Smitty, as usual, knows nothing, so he makes dumb remarks. .

Umm, he is not the best player in NBA history. Also, someone can be the GOAT, but get too much credit. BTW, would one of you people actually respond to my post, or do you know that I am right?

Are you that stupid to honestly believe that PPG and APG makes Michael Jordan a bette scorer and passer. . Kobe Bryant is more skilled offensively than Michael Jordan, and Michael Jordan got away with a lot of [expletive] that he wouldn't get away with in today's game. I'm actually 99.9999999% that Brandon will actually agree with me about Kobe being a better scorer. Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan play in two very different era's, so those stats aren't anything special. BTW, steals don't mean [expletive].