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I would've preferred re-signing Biron, and trading Briere instead to clear up some of that CAP room. If they do that Chris Pronger is still a Flyer and someone would want Briere. He could still put fans in the seats and is a good player. The Flyers don't really have a choice with their CAP situation to get a safer guy at the goalie, but unlike you I am not pleased by this. He's had countless opportunities to turn his character around and he's failed to do so everytime, but we'll see. You appear to be fellating Emery over the year the Senators went deep into the playoffs, yet ignore the year after that which led to his exit. He had more losses than wins, save% was under .900, and his team failed to make the playoffs. Who knows if we'll get that Emery or the other one. The only certain thing is we will be getting the headcase. Biron was pretty consistant with us though and we knew what we'd be getting from him. If we upgraded the defense with him I feel we would have a better team.

If Miller accepts that I will be really pissed. Don't see it happening though. He wanted 3 years/10+ million a year from the Sixers. Miller will probably laugh at that offer.

Well Utah is still going to be in the playoffs. Without Boozer their still a damn good team just put Millsap in there. And they have Deron Williams who is ARGUABLY the best point guard in the league. Jerry Sloan is one of the best coaches in the league. Their a legit squad. Houston won't make it. The Warriors could possibly take Houston's spot in the playoffs although I wouldn't put money on that happening. They'll probably get around 37 wins this year which is an upgrade from last year at least.

Oh I've seen every game of Emery's career. I have them all on dvd. Biggest steal of Free Agency eh? Is that why noone else wanted him for the past 2 or however many years he's been out of the league? Sure your getting him for a good price, but the guy has NEVER behaved. Not even when he had a reason to in Russia to try and get back into the league. Look at it this way, the guy can't get a job in the NHL so he's playing overseas to try and repair his image and try and prove he's not a moron. What does he do? He has another incident and gets kicked off THE RUSSIAN TEAM. The flyers got him because their desperate for goaltending and he is a cheap option with some upside. Homer is rolling the dice though. Pronger and Richards are good leaders, but I'm not sure their going to be able to talk Ray Emery out of whatever he's thinking. The guy was [expletive]ed up and if he does go off I wouldn't feel that comfortable with Brian Boucher as the sole goalie.

Quality young players are the same thing as prospects, even higher valued if they proven they can play at the highest level. A team like the Celtics was in the lottery for many many consecutive years. Then they traded all those lottery players accumulated for a superstar in KG which is essentially the same thing as trading away your farm system, just with a different word. If a team is in the lottery for many years like the Celtics were chances are their going to have some young players that catch team's eyes and make them contenders for a superstar to come there. And I would take a guy that proved his worth at the actual level of the game in Al Jefferson while still young over an 18 year old that is hit or miss. Possible Gerald Green

If you think KG is a better scorer than Dirk you lose all credibility in this thread Like KG would've ever been able to lead that team to a title. He never even sniffed anything other than the first round in Minnesota until he had Sam Cassell and even then as a number one seed he got owned by a Laker team that had question marks and ultimately embarrassed in the Finals. KG wouldn't have even got a ring right now if it wasn't for Pierce. KG had an imressive 13 points on 37% shooting in Game 7 against Cleveland last year. If it isn't for Pierce's 41 point outbursts Boston's season is over right there. KG doesn't have the best track record of showing up in big games either. It was a knock of his until he had Pierce, Allen, and Rondo on his team so he wouldn't have to carry a load he was incapable of carrying.

Dirk KG isn't capable of carrying a team anymore the way Dirk is with the Mavericks. If the Mavs traded Dirk for KG do you really think they'd be a better team? KG is way better on defense and Dirk is way better than offense. KG is slowly turning into a jumpshooter so the overrated post game that he did have isn't even there as much anymore. When talking about great players I choose the guy that is more able to take the team on his back and carry them to victory. I don't think KG is capable of that anymore. And KG isn't a better leader. Just because he screams like an idiot and is more vocal doesn't make him a better leader. He has a great work ethnic, but so does Dirk which people don't realize. Jason Kidd said Dirk has the best work ethnic of any player he's ever played with. Dirk has been the face of that franchise for the past 10 years and has consistantly led them to 50 win seasons. As of now he is more explosive than KG.

Emery isn't even that good to begin with and it's only a matter of time until he explodes. He couldn't even keep his cool on the Russian team he played for. Every team he plays for he explodes causing them to get rid of his [expletive]. I'm not a big fan of the signing and I don't even think there's a back-up goalie as of now? Hopefully Emery proves me wrong, but I don't like him. Luckily the Flyers got Pronger though which is going to help Emery out big time.

An argument their using is that trading LeBron is unrealistic in the NBA when that trade right over there is just as unrealistic.

Ugh ugh get it done. Udonis Haslem is one of my favorite players in the league though and it would really suck seeing him play on a team other than Miami since he grew up there and all and the guy plays with more heart than anyone, but if it brings in Boozer that is done in a heartbeat. How does Haslem/Wright match Boozer salary wise though??? C- Jermaine O'Neal F- Carlos Boozer F- Lamar Odom G- Dwyane Wade G- Chalmers And hopefully an improved M.Beasley coming off the bench to split minutes at the forward spots. Now that's definitely a nice in the Conference. I don't think it's quite up to the level of the big 3, but after that it's a definite 4th.

1. Brandon Roy 2. Rajon Rondo 3. LaMarcus Aldridge 4. Paul Millsap 5. Rudy Gay Pretty weak draft looking back at it. And Rondo is better than everyone in this draft not named Brandon Roy. He makes more of an impact on the game than Aldridge, Gay, or whoever you want to make a case for.

Like I said Nash was an above average point guard in Dallas, but no way in hell was he being discussed for MVP which is still laughable to this day. He was one of those borderline all-star players for most of his tenure there. He still played absolutely pitiful defense. In fact after Nash left as a FA Dallas became a better team immedietly with Jason Terry at point. The Suns thing was doomed from the beginning and was just a stupid trade for them sacrificing the team's greatest strength for an old Shaq which wasn't worth it. I think I said this before. Cleveland previously had Big Z in the middle who isn't the best pick and roll defender either. Big Z's speed in the playoffs made Shaq look like Usain Bolt. They did fine with Big Z in the middle and isn't significantly worse or anything than Big Z on defense. Cleveland didn't need any shut down perimeter defenders to be the third best defensive team last year. Giving Z slightly less minutes and putting Shaq in there isn't going to lower that rank by much at all.

If Cleveland can add a 4 that can hit the mid range shot to pair up with Shaq it would be great. They really missed out by not getting Dice, but it is still an issue that needs to be addressed. If they can do that their set. Anyway I've seen some interesting statements in this thread. Is this a joke? The top 5 in basketball right now isn't even debatable. It's the Cavs, Lakers, Celtics, Magic, and Spurs. The Cavs are a lock to finish top 3 in the East. Unless LeBron James misses the entire season or the majority of it there's no way their not top 3. The Cavs weren't overrated. Everyone had them as a lock going to the Finals and for good reason. They dominated the regular season and dominated the first two rounds of the playoffs winning by an insane margin each game. They just didn't match up well with that Orlando team. They had Big Z guarding Dwight who is way too slow(Shaq's speed is underrated, he'll do better) and they had Varejao guarding Shard a lot which was a disaster from the beginning. Holy [expletive] the Heat and Detroit finishing above the Cavs? Detroit will finish around the .500 mark and Miami will have a similar record to last season unless some tweaks are made. Detroit fans were complaining about Sheed and his three point fetish, I can't wait til they see Charlie Villanueva. At least Sheed brought some defense. So with one great player and a bunch of scrubs the Cavs won 66 games. Not bad. Now they add the third best center in the league for the upcoming season who is an all-star and future hall of famer. They add a shooter and a two-guard with size in Anthony Parker to provide additional depth. They didn't lose anything. The Cavs had their best season in franchise history last year and they added an all-star bigman. Other than the Magic series Cleveland was impressive all year. That's because Phoenix was a fastbreak team prior to Shaq. Before Nash came back to Phoenix for his second stint he was just your above average point guard. The fast break game utilized his advantages and when Shaq came they had to slow down and play more of a halfcourt game to get him involved. Suddenly Nash turned back into the guy he was in Dallas. And everyone on ESPN said that it was a dumb trade for the Suns, I remember. Cleveland however was probably the slowest paced team in the league last year so Shaq will have no trouble fitting in and Cleveland won't have to change their gameplan to accommodate for Shaq. The reason people say the Spurs are old because other than Parker everyone of their key players is in their 30's. Duncan is the catalyst for the Spurs. Shaq is not the catalyst for the Cavs. LeBron is. He's going to do more for Cleveland than that dumbass Sheed in your sig. Less minutes for KG and Perkins. Can't say I'm against it.

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When big time stars are traded the team getting the big time star always wins the deal in the short term and currently the value for both sides is clearly uneven. Look at the Flyers, they got Chris Pronger and gave up essentially a young player, some future draft picks, and a current player that is OK. It is similar to basketball because that is usually a similar kind of deal traded for an all-star. Shaq was traded from the Lakers for a young player(Caron Butler), future draft picks, and a current player that is pretty good(Odom) with Brian Grant filled in just to make the salary work. When you trade a star in any sport(a big time star) you will not get equal value for him in a trade. And only a retard would trade a big time star when he's only 23. Those Ovechkin proposals to Boston are huge bs trades that are so unrealistic it's pretty unbelievable. If your telling me to not post a bs trade proposal look at that dudes. It's impossible to get net value for any star in any sport. The Colts and Patriots would never trade Brady for Peyton Manning even though it wouldn't be clear who won the trade. Guys like Roy Halladay, the reason their being shopped around is because their team blows and they want to save money/get young players since they know their not winning now. If the Phillies do the trade for Roy Halladay right now they don't lose anything in the present making it a lopsided trade for right now. However when you get to the good teams their superstars arn't going anywhere. St. Louis trading Pujols? That would never happen and any deal involving him is just as unrealistic as a deal sending LeBron out of Cleveland. Crosby getting traded? Team's could throw their entire farm system all they want, but that would never make Pittsburgh give them up. Even with the farm system and the additional young prospects it's not going to even make Pittsburgh think about trading Crosby or Malkin or the Giants/Cardinals with Pujols/Lincecum. Boston would never do that trade so I don't see what your point is. I could post a similar deal having the Hornets or someone trade half their team for LeBron James , but it doesn't matter since none of those deals have any shot at going down.

Hockey's the coolest sport to watch in person, but I think going to a football game is the best just because of how intense and crazy the atmosphere is. It's really awesome. All the sports are fun to go to in person though.

Odom wants to be a starter and he isn't getting that into LA. On Miami he will take the starting spot. That is also something to consider.

Well to get Boozer Beasley would have to be traded. I'm not sure if that would be worth it? I'd probably rather have Boozer since I don't think Beasley will ever have the inside game of him. If they can get Odom too that would be pretty straight. Just need to get upgrade the center and point guard positions or hope their guys develop into capable starters.

Miami isn't trading a 20 year old kid with a ton of potential for a 30 year old Odom. That would be an insanely dumb trade by Pat Riley and he doesn't make dumb trades.

No way lol, Farmar is butt. I like the Duhon and Blake deals myself.

Honestly I'd rather wait til next year to sign Wade. If the Heat give him the extension now there won't be any CAP room to sign someone like Bosh to pair up with him. The Heat just need Wade to stay committed so he can be paired up with a star. Wade ditching Miami after this year would be devastating and it can't afford to happen, but if the best team is to be put out on the floor we gotta sign Wade and an all-star next offseason.

No way Cook and Haslem > Odom. Give them Chris Quinn and Jamal Maglorie. I can't think of a realistic trade that LA and Miami would agree upon to bring Odom for Miami and he isn't going to come to Miami for the MLE. Seems like an unrealistic scenario IMO.

Harris is more clutch? What clutch shots has Harris made? He made that half court bull against the Sixers, but that was entirely luck. Harris's field goal percentage in clutch situations(final 5 minutes of a game/OT) is 33%. Rondo's is 44%. Rondo also shoots a better free throw percentage at the line in clutch situations(87% to Harris's 85%) lol @ more clutch, way to pull that out of your [expletive].

What [expletive]ing [expletive]s. They already have Dwight and are selfish not allowing Gortat to go elsewhere to get an oppurtunity to start and he is a capable starter at the Center position. It isn't fair to make him sit on the bench and play 10 MPG.

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