EastCoastNiner Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 The NBA should definitely use the lottery system the NHL uses. The worst outcome for a team with the worst record would be the #2 overall pick, and other teams can only move up four spots in the lottery. It really is a great system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Has anybody here ever taken a mathematics class? If you ran these simulations 100 times, in a perfect world, that Clippers pick is earning that top spot 2.8 times. Not zero times. The Cavs own pick actually dropped. Cleveland would've been pretty screwed and would've picked fourth if not for the trade they made. As for the T-Wolves being pissed...the team with the worst record ONLY has a 45% chance of earning a top two pick. Think about that if you're a team purposely trying to lose (not saying Minny did) The T-wolves should be happy they got a top 2 pick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 The first and possibly only time I will agree with David Kahn. Ah well, good for Cleveland. Their rebuilding process just sped up by 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Has anybody here ever taken a mathematics class? If you ran these simulations 100 times, in a perfect world, that Clippers pick is earning that top spot 2.8 times. Not zero times. The Cavs own pick actually dropped. Cleveland would've been pretty screwed and would've picked fourth if not for the trade they made. As for the T-Wolves being pissed...the team with the worst record ONLY has a 45% chance of earning a top two pick. Think about that if you're a team purposely trying to lose (not saying Minny did) The T-wolves should be happy they got a top 2 pick. And, that's not what a lot of people have been saying. It makes much more sense to use the NHL's lottery where a team can only drop down a maximum of one sport, or move up four spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Cavs deserve a break after LeDouche left, if they're smart they'll go with Williams instead of Irving but we'll see. They don't 'deserve' shit. They deserve a top pick because they put trash around LBJ for 7 years? Weird. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 And, that's not what a lot of people have been saying. It makes much more sense to use the NHL's lottery where a team can only drop down a maximum of one sport, or move up four spots. Go count the number of times the word fixed has been typed in this thread. I like the idea that decent teams can win the jackpot and get the #1 pick. One, even though they didn't make the playoffs, they still have a light at the end of the tunnel. Two, thanks to the draft, it's easier for awful teams to become really good than mediocre teams. The way the NBA lottery is set up allows decent, but non-playoff teams to have a chance at striking gold. Three, it mitigates the effectiveness of tanking. The lottery is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 They don't 'deserve' shit. They deserve a top pick because they put trash around LBJ for 7 years? Weird. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted May 19, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Cleveland deserves the top pick because they won the lottery, and made a helluva trade with the Clippers. Get over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Cleveland deserves the top pick because they won the lottery, and made a helluva trade with the Clippers. Get over it. Meh, I might just whine and complain about it all season even when it'll almost be an entire year since it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted May 19, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Meh, I might just whine and complain about it all season even when it'll almost be an entire year since it happened.So you're thinking the Cavaliers getting Kyrie Irving is going to be that big of a deal, huh? That it's going to change the course of the league, and basically show a middle finger to an entire city of fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 So you're thinking the Cavaliers getting Kyrie Irving is going to be that big of a deal, huh? That it's going to change the course of the league, and basically show a middle finger to an entire city of fans? Nah, just gonna complain to complain even though my team has 0 to do with their future. Actually, nvm that definitely didn't make sense but still. I'm just gonna complain about their every move. I just don't like Cleveland. Aren't I entitled to that opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerGuy Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Shouldn't you be thanking Cleveland, though? I mean...had LeBron actually won a title there, I doubt he would be with the Heat. I don't know, just something to think about I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted May 19, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Nah, just gonna complain to complain even though my team has 0 to do with their future. Actually, nvm that definitely didn't make sense but still. I'm just gonna complain about their every move. I just don't like Cleveland. Aren't I entitled to that opinion?Guess so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Shouldn't you be thanking Cleveland, though? I mean...had LeBron actually won a title there, I doubt he would be with the Heat. I don't know, just something to think about I guess. I guess Danny Ferry deserves some love from me. I appreciate Dan Gilbert's retardedness as well but he's just a D-Bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've actually sat in the sequestered room two years ago and witnessed the lottery process and it would be very difficult to rig. NBA president Joel Litvin drops 14 ping pong balls in a drum that looks like a popcorn popper and pulls them out of the machine after getting the word from a timer. I'm not a physicist, obviously, so I'm not sure how you could have the balls be heavier or lighter to get a desired result. But I will say that the process looks far from fixed. It's just really fun to speculate, especially when NBA general managers like David Kahn joke about it.http://live.washingtonpost.com/nba-draft-lottery-2011.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Blasco Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 http://live.washingt...ttery-2011.html Good link. One of the dudes from the Paroxysm has seen the lottery process too. http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2011/05/18/the-fix-isnt-in/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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