reno Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Just look at the world around you. Its too beautiful to just be chance and luck. God created this world for us to cherish, why would you doubt God? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I don't know man, it's a gift from God. But they can believe whatever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Spidey Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 because religion is complete....nvm i dont want to spark a huge fight in here. but we have our reasons, im sure someone else will shed light on it in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 They just like to be realistic. They look at God just like they look at other things in life, they want some proof. I'm not atheist though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Is terrorism, world hunger, or disease really beautiful? If your creator is so great, why doesn't he do something to prevent this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Saying that the world is beautiful only proves that the world is beautiful (if you ignore things like wars, starvation, cruelty, disease, natural disasters, extinction, etc. etc.). Please, there is no connection between a pretty planet and some sort of all powerful invisible old man in the sky. Give me some means to where I can use my senses to acknowledge this being (like actually being able to see him, touch, smell... at least something of the sort) or the slightest trace of evidence, and then I'll believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Spidey Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 and when people die, they say god had a purpose for them and all bunch of [expletive] to make people think better of it..really now..people just die because they die not because god decided it was their time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Saying that the world is beautiful only proves that the world is beautiful (if you ignore things like wars, starvation, cruelty, disease, natural disasters, extinction, etc. etc.). Please, there is no connection between a pretty planet and some sort of all powerful invisible old man in the sky. Give me some means to where I can use my senses to acknowledge this being (like actually being able to see him, touch, smell... at least something of the sort) or the slightest trace of evidence, and then I'll believe. Yet you've probably never read the Bible. Or done any real research, you just say you don't believe for whatever reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reno Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Saying that the world is beautiful only proves that the world is beautiful (if you ignore things like wars, starvation, cruelty, disease, natural disasters, extinction, etc. etc.). Please, there is no connection between a pretty planet and some sort of all powerful invisible old man in the sky. Give me some means to where I can use my senses to acknowledge this being (like actually being able to see him, touch, smell... at least something of the sort) or the slightest trace of evidence, and then I'll believe. God left us with free will. Everything we've seen happening has been the cause of man. God did not start poverty or wars, man did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Yet you've probably never read the Bible. Or done any real research, you just say you don't believe for whatever reason...The bible also has a talking bush in it. Very credible source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The bible also has a talking bush in it. Very credible source. Sure go ahead, mock and make fun of it. Really doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Spidey Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 the bible is just a bunch of made up stories made by man. ..this topic will get locked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Because we have common sense and question things without accepting them just because a book full of fairy tales states it. A god is possible but improbable. Why do you not believe in Quetzlacotl, Horus, Odin, Osiris, Poseidon, Mars, Kronos or Zeus? Zeus is defenitely real, read the Iliad! If Zeus isnt real then where does lightning come from during thunderstorms! If you dont beileve in him you will be struck by thunder! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Sure go ahead, mock and make fun of it. Really doesn't bother me.Well considering you believe in something you've never seen/heard it wouldn't surprise me you believe in a talking bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Yet you've probably never read the Bible. Or done any real research, you just say you don't believe for whatever reason...Wrong. Although I never read the Bible cover to cover, I spent most of my early school years (Kindergarten through 3rd grade) in a religious school, so I know just about as much as the average Christian. I believed in God at the time... but then again, I also believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Well considering you believe in something you've never seen/heard it wouldn't surprise me you believe in a talking bush. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/YugoRocketsFan/bible.gif Edited October 16, 2009 by YugoRocketsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Wrong. Although I never read the Bible cover to cover, I spent most of my early school years (Kindergarten through 3rd grade) in a religious school, so I know just about as much as the average Christian. I believed in God at the time... but then again, I also believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy. Like comparing those are even close. "Faith in God" is something completely different than believing in Santa Claus. People who don't believe based on something they cannot see, or interpret doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Look how long the Christian faith has lasted, compared to the fore mentioned Polytheistic ones. Our culture is slowly turning away from God, when I think we should be turning to faith in this hard times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Like comparing those are even close. "Faith in God" is something completely different than believing in Santa Claus. People who don't believe based on something they cannot see, or interpret doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Look how long the Christian faith has lasted, compared to the fore mentioned Polytheistic ones. Our culture is slowly turning away from God, when I think we should be turning to faith in this hard times. We arent turning away from anything we are becoming smarter, evolving, some people just like to stay in the Stone Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNy6ziOyxoA I think George Carlin explains the atheist point of view just about perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well if God didn't do anything during the Holocaust or Great Depression, why would he do anything in a situation like a small recession compared to those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 We arent turning away from anything we are becoming smarter, evolving, some people just like to stay in the Stone Age. Well that's your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well that's your opinion.If you're going to enter a thread like this, at least debate your opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 If you're going to enter a thread like this, at least debate your opinion How can I debate faith? Also, show me how the earth was created; and then PROVE it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 How can I debate faith? Also, show me how the earth was created; and then PROVE it.The earth being created is a scientific theory, which is 99% true based on scientific fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The earth being created is a scientific theory, which is 99% true based on scientific fact. No... I don't think it's summed up quite like that. Do some research first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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