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It's not so much that it deserves attention (in some aspects it does), but that I feel like you guys as a community should be able to talk about it. Some people wanted him gone, others didn't, still others were on the fence about it. Having you guys give feedback about the situation is valuable to me. I'll close it at some point, but I'd rather talk things out before I did.

I've decided to delete troll posts before they get out of hand. Knock it off Slaven.

Some people were mentioning that it wasn't fair that ECN gets the blame when other people were trolling him and they didn't get punished. The thing is, we've let most of the lighter trolling slide over the past year. We did it to help with activity, and because some people felt we were too uptight about some things. It was the same story with the word censor. The problem with ECN is, is that he doesn't know when to stop. Whether it's a legitimate debate that spirals off-topic or it's the NFL gameday threads, it's always the same story with him. People have been banned for worse, yes. That doesn't matter here though. I had several choices: 1) I let everything continue to slide, and ECN hangs around. He doesn't change, and we lose quality members. 2) I let ECN stay, but make it so that all of his posts must be approved by a moderator before they are posted. This keeps him in check, but then the moderators and I would constantly be baby-sitting his posts. 3) I get rid of him, people stop responding to his trolling (which in turn stops their trolling) and most of the community is satisfied. Do we lose some activity with him gone? Yes, but I will NOT see members, good members, walk away because some guy couldn't keep himself in check and the staff did nothing about it.

I'm not against the idea of him coming back, but we can't have people saying they supposedly ignored him, and then still respond to his posts. He also can't go around trolling hardcore like he has been. He has a strong opinion about things, and that's fine, but when he's baiting the hell out of other members and trolling to just get a reaction it's not good. It's not good for the community, and it's not good for our image. I know it's a two way street, and that other members also troll ECN, but most of it is in direct response to his trolling. To fix this problem, either everyone needs to try to get along, or whoever has a problem with ECN put him on ignore, and IGNORE his posts. ECN, if you come back you HAVE to tone down the trolling. Serious talk. You bring most of it upon yourself, and I know you can do better than that.

The problem with saying that people should of ignored him, is that they didn't. People claimed to put him on ignore, and vice verse, but there was still interaction going on. I admitted that he wasn't a bad poster when he wasn't in complete troll mode, and I gave him a chance to cut it out but he didn't. What am I supposed to do when he goes around calling people cunts, and was STILL trolling in the football forums and other threads?

Can't say I didn't warn you. See ya.

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When ECN posts knowledgeable, constructive posts he can be a valued member here. However, those posts are an extreme rarity, especially as of late. This has been going on for far too long. ECN, you've gotten yourself into a corner here and there are two ways out. Either I ban you, or you cut crap out and stop trolling. To be perfectly honest, I don't know if you can. You might be an angel for a little while, then start reverting back to your old ways. What's it going to be? Are you going to change, or am I going to be the one making changes here?

They've been in there for 12 hours. That has to be a good thing...right?

Kmart. It's retail, but I don't care...it's not in the food industry and I'll probably get a lot of hours because of the holiday season.

Me too! Today was a good day for us.

All of that falls into the Other Basketball Discussion forum. http://www.otrbasketball.com/forums/forum/54-other-basketball-discussion/ Feel free to make a thread in there (like 'General Playground Ball', or something).

The owners are the ones to blame for the bad contracts. Nobody was forcing them to sign them. Are the players and their agents part of the problem? Sure, but if owners stuck to their guns and didn't give out max contracts like candy on Halloween, then players would be forced to take a lower deal.

:yess: Been bumping this lately, ended up downloading one of her mix tapes. She's friggin legit.

Guys, can you take this conversation to PMs or AIM please. Stay on topic or discuss it elsewhere.

Looking good so far...hopefully they can come to an agreement on the BRI issues once the system issues are taken care of.

We're the ones going through a lockout, how are they dead? #anotheronebitesthedust

Oh, the humanity!

Awful news. It's incredible when you think about how one man could change the world so much. RIP. Cancer sucks.

You're going to have to give more info before someone would make something for you. Size? Colors? Would the person be compensated for their work? Ect.

The belief in witches dates far back before the birth of Christ, and witch hunts were also pre-Christian. Ancient Egypt and in Babylonia had laws against witches and malevolent sorcery. I guess they must of been white and Christian too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_hunts The part in bold is particularly interesting. Was there witch hunts during medieval times when the Catholic church was prominent? Yes, but to say that only Christians believed and organized witch hunts is not only inaccurate, but stupidly judgmental.

When having a healthy debate, please don't post audio of female orgasms from youtube. Especially when some people have their settings set to auto-play and aren't expecting it. Incredibly disturbing. And don't think to try and deny it, I can see deleted posts and edits in the control panel. That said, back to the actual topic.

Knock it off, both of you. I'm all for some trash talk but keep it civilized fellas.

Happy Birthday bro. I know you're having a good one.