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McGee is actually pretty nasty. He still has time to develop his game. I was impressed with him in the playoffs versus LAL.

I'm assuming they'd back out if they miss out on Nash. Still have a feeling Nash will end up in Toronto.

James White? I read about him, and from what I read, his game resembles Shumpert...which kind of leads me to believe Knicks are leaning towards the S&T. And Landry is easily replaceable, lol.

I could do without Hill, Camby has far more value to this team IMO. Agree with rest. :glasses: Just realized...I'm going to be extremely disappointed if none of that happens, lol.

If you do give up Shumpert, Smith and Novak become necessities for two major reasons. A. Nash penetrate and kick to Novak in the corner would be lethal...oh the thoughts of that. B. Smith would be our best perimeter defender. Without Shumpert, Smith becomes an extremely valuable defensive player and rebounding guard.

It's tough man. First off, Shumpert is coming off of an injury. A pretty major knee injury. With a game that's built off explosiveness, and quick feet on the defensive end, it's hard to say it's not at least a thought he may not come back the same player. I say it's about an 80% chance he recovers fine and this knee injury doesn't effect him in the long haul - but you never know...it could be the beginning of an injury riddled career (always have to put that into consideration albeit it's not likely)... Secondly, the Knicks have are now in a win now mentality. They've commited to a base of Amar'e, Chandler, and Carmelo Anthony. We've already seen that is not going to win a championship. They need a competent PG to complete the puzzle. Does it have to be Nash? No, it doesn't. Lin could eventually develop into that player, but that is a major risk as well, because it's tough to say how well he blends, or hell, how good he will even be... The Knicks are in a three year window presumably with this trio of Amar'e, Chandler and Melo. I'd say Nash has two years (max IMO) of playing at the top of his game, assuming he stays healthy. I believe that's about the window the Knicks have at this point to be a serious threat to win a championship. Now, the problem with Nash for the Knicks is, how will he mesh with Carmelo? Will he stay healthy at 38? And, will his defensive liabilities (combined with Amar'e, and even Carmelo Anthony), be able to be overcome by Chandler in the middle? I'm split on the deal. Nash is one of my all time favorite players, always has been. I've never been a big LeBron fan. Never liked Kobe. Never liked Michael. My favorite stars have always been PG's, the Nash's, the CP3's, etc. So I'm a bit biased towards going ahead with the deal at this point, just to see one of my all time favorites in a Knicks uniform. Is it a stupid deal to give up Shumpert? Most likely. I think he has the potential to be an all-star player for sure. At least on the level of a Shawn Marion in his prime. In sum, I'm pretty much split down the middle. I will be shocked if it actually happened, because I'm not sure the Knicks are willing to give up Shumpert as much as the media is saying. We will have to wait and see.

All of that was interesting for sure. Nash move including Shumpert is a major risk...Knicks would be a pretty horrible defensive team without Shumpert, and especially with Nash and Lin in the backcourt. I'm assuming they'd play those two a lot of times together, especially if Lin is as good as last season (and let's not forget Lin is a scoring PG, and was a 2 guard in College)... Also, how would Nash blend with Melo? I think Amar'e would be a seamless tranisition (we already know how they played together for years in PHX) and Chandler should be no issue. What about Carmelo Anthony? Needs the ball in his hands to play his game, as we saw the last month of the season under Woodson. With Nash dominating the ball, where does that put Carmelo Anthony? It's a legitimate question IMO. Small sidenote question...is Novak coming back? What about JR Smith? What is their status? I hear nothing about them anymore...

blah....... They probably can't afford him....

I agree. He never seems to be on the court.

Great for BK. They are looking good man!

Ain't that the truth. Re-Naldo Balk-man.

I don't think it's worth it...no. But it's not up to me. It's up to James Dolan...

Not only that, but what does Nash do for Toronto? I know he is a great player, is Candian and people love him there, but he's not going to win you games. That roster is no good. He's not a serious person to build around, he's 38 years old. I guess it's all about selling seats. -_-

Makes sense for both sides. Nets instantly become contender (assuming Williams signs on) and Magic get some value in return as well as picks (Love Brooks, Humphries/Lopez can be useful)

It's 2 years / 12 million. It's not 2 years / 6 million like the title suggests lol

Yeah. Basically. Our hope for Nash is all but over. Unless a trade involves Shump. If they are willing to trade Shumpert, I think Nash is a Knick...

LOL. Good Bye Landry! He's a cool dude, great personality, but he is just not a good NBA player.

Lol. Jerome Jordan has basically zero upside...and Landry Fields will flourish no where. 30% from the 3 pt range, and 59% from the foul line as a 2 guard? :lol: :lol: Grant Hill is like 40, and what role does he even play if we Melo/Fields/Smith/Novak/Jeffries Man...you know, if Lin didn't sign and Nash didn't either, and with Shumpert on the shelf, the Knicks will be really brutal to watch next year.

Ferry is making great moves. Not sure why they'd want Devin Harris, but is apparent they are trying to create cap space and flexibility for the future..

Joe Johnson is one of the more overrated players in the NBA. He's not worth a max contract IMO. He's not a superstar. He's an all-star player, which IMO, all-star players don't deserve the absolute max because it bogs down your franchise in the long run with that 20 million a year you have to shell out for a guy who isn't an absolute major impact player like a Durant, Kobe, or LeBron. Don't get me wrong, Johnson is nice, and a trio of D-will, JJ, and Dwight, combined with Gerald Wallce and Marshon Brooks is very enticing and is easily a top 5 team in the NBA...Maybe top 3. But if it's D-Will, JJ, Wallace, they are only a playoff team. They are probably a 5-6 seed which I don't see competing for a championship. They are on the level of Indiana at best IMO. I don't really get the trade. Especially if they have no plan/money to acquire Dwight Howard now...

Yeah, Davis is the obvious favorite. I'm going to go Kidd-Gilchrist. He's going to do plenty of scoring on that Charlotte team (someone's gotta shoot/score, right?) and he's also going to play hard night in and night out. Also, the Bobcats will be better next year. They can't be worse. So that improvement will get him some attention.

Lol. If the Suns took that deal that's hilarious. That's a terrible offer, but we have nothing to give. Shumpert's stock is at an all time low right now with the knee injury. trading him for a 38 yr old nash would be an awful move imo. love nash, one of my all time favorites, but not worth giving up shump. The s&t just seems like such a reach to me. and johnson-odom has a pretty good mid range game actually, but enough talk about him, chances are he won't be a good nba player (and wont get a realistic shot at Mins anyway) so no point in talking abt someone in 2nd rd we didn't take why would nyk want grant hill? i don't really see his fit

I'd be shocked if he wasn't moved before this next seasn. I think Brooklyn is the most obvious option, but if I were L.A. I'd seriously have to consider putting a package together of Bynum and Gasol to acquire Dwight

He may be looking at NY as an option too. I know he's very good friends with Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire, as well as Tyson Chandler. I think after this next year if it is apparent the Knicks need a PG to have any hope of ever competing for a championship in the next 5 years(realistically speaking, is going to be the case), Paul may jump on board.

I've never been a huge Gerald Wallace fan, but I guess he could be a nice third option if you guys get Williams to stay (which I am about 90% sure he will, at this point) and somehow land Howard.